I have a grandson who goes to a Presbyterian Church and is a youth pastor there. His sweet precious wife is Presbyterian, her mother yep, her dad who is pastor of a Presbyterian Church but divorced from her mother, who is a chaplain at a Presbyterian hospital . Now, the problem I have is I see The Bride of Christ as made up of true believers from all denominations, even Catholic that believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God and have taken him as their Savior. For the reason I donât judge people in their different ways of worship or beliefs as long as itâs Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Satan has planted Tares in all places including this forum, anywhere Godâs Word is taught, or mentioned or wherever. So because of that I am called ecumenical by certain ones on here. The old saying,âSticks and stones may hurt my bones but names can never harm me.â is actually very wrong and it can hurt you and thatâs why I can no longer fellowship on here. Not angry at anyone, just tired.
Well, I have JohnUk learned things on here that has helped me grow spiritually. I didnât know people sometimes could be at odds over their beliefs that actually have nothing to do with salvation. I certainly donât claim to understand everything about the way God works and I do believe we donât have to, thatâs why I donât judge. Ok you were right and felt like I should not have given up on my reason for being here. God has never given up on me and His grace not only saved me but keeps me and one day take me to heaven when my work is done.
Thanks, Dr.Tim because what you said is exactly how I felt the many times I have wanted to leave. There is a reason we found this site and I have ever assurance that He wants us here for whatever His reason is and the Devil himself is trying to make me leave. When I post it not always to those who post but the ones who are searching for answers or need encouragement of some sort. My niece has told me more than once that I should write a book for she knows what my life has been like. Thatâs probably why I write such long posts đ
Thanks for the help in understanding that is not good but I actually saw that in one of the comments made about the Baptist Church having Rock concert for music and judging Billy Graham as evil. I understood that he was different but I accept that and Frank about wife beating, I was being sarcastic in the fact there is a war going on here between 2 groups of beliefs and it gets heated. I am not into judging others about what they believe, thatâs Godâs job, I am not that smart. Have a good life and itâs been an interesting experience but time for me to move on to whatever God has for me to do.
Of course, English Lad, Dr Tim is not leaving. God has put a few of us Arminians on here to set the record straight and keep the Calvinist in line and to help some of you to lighten up for heavens sake. Geez
Christopher, of course you and ups were only trying to help me see something to help rather than hurt me. So the links given were for my own good to read. So thank you for that because itâs through love that Christians help each other see the truth they see. I have reacted in a way not pleasing to Jesus and on top of that brought up past hurts that was actually just another way God has helped me to be an overcomer in this spiritual warfare I am in daily. Take up the shield of faith to quench the firery darts Satan hurls my way. I have a friend that feels exactly like you. She is a deep Christian with flaws like all of us. Unlike me she never went to church as she was growing up. She became a Christian at age 30. It came about as the result of a dream she had about being in hell. It is only what we do in Christ and for him that really matters anyway,a cup of cold water given to someone is the same as given to me, Jesus said. She taught SS until her health got so bad. She is so down on herself but she still radiates Godâs Love as we all should do.
Amen Dr.Tim, actually like Paul, I would rather be with Jesus but apparently He still has a work for me here. Loved ones still in the far country. A friend that has to have encouragement as she faces a devastating disease. Something we can look forward to and that makes what we go through here so much easier.
My last comment on this is that, it was when I first started posting on here and was taking a lot of heat from a group of you that were Calvinist believers and I Arminian in belief. I was so shocked by everything because I never knew about either of these and being judged as if I was lost kinda shook me up for awhile until I began to understand what the fuss was all about. I do not intentionally try to make people on here feel sorry for me. I have always given a testimony to others that need to hear that in spite of their painful experiences in their lives God is there to get them through. I canât be but what I am through my nature. I am tender hearted, introverted, love animals and hate to see others mistreated including animals, children and people unable to defend themselves. And I get so angry. Someone shot and killed my sonâs cat loved by him and his children. It happened in their yard while they were gone. He is a CRNA and console us with the fact the bullet hit an artery in neck and never knew what hit him. He was loved, fed taken for his shots etc in return he kept snakes and rats out of their yard.
Dr. Tim, I so appreciate your comments and encouragement. No the voice is not audible and like a preacher I heard say, once during a sermon, God had spoke to him about something and he stopped and looked at his church members and said,â donât look at me like that, it wasnât an audible voice, it was louder than that.â đ Fred Lowery was his name and he was pastor of First Baptist in Bossier, La. He has preached at the church I attend now, a few times. He was a good man of God and had a sense of humor like you and I .I watched him on tv at times and his messages hit home more than once. God speaks to my heart and guides me and I He lets me know when I do or say something not right for a child of God to do or say.
Btw, that was 5 years ago when we had the Bible Studies and if she is now different Iâm sure we wonât have anymore. My best friendâs husband is in an all menâs class and she is in my womenâs class. She related an incident in which a new teacher took their class over when their teacher resigned. He began to teach some lessons that was not truth as they saw it. They disagreed with it as being close to heretical to them. He kept on each Sunday getting worse, so finally the whole class one Sunday got up and walked out and refused to go back in. They were given another teacher. There are Tares planted by Satan in every church, every link , even on here. So I donât listen to every voice I hear or read. I am His sheep and Jesus said,âMy sheep hear my voice.â A sheep knows the shepherdâs voice from all others and because of their trust in him they follow and trust his guidance as he takes them to lie down in green pastures and drink from still waters because they are easily frightened when waters are rushing. So the shepherd loves them and finds the right spot for them to rest and eat and drink. Protects them from their enemies even those in wolves clothing.
Christopher you see what you want to see about me and the group you email and run with are all you want to see even when they start hurling mean vindictive words at you. Go back and carefully read my post to Ups. I said that I mentioned how God speaks to me and guides me. LADY BUG commented in ridicule, that I or people who hear voices are mentally ill and more of her co-horts agreed. We are all going to give account of how we treat others. I have taken Bible Studies with both ladies and was helped a great deal. Tony Evans is a great man of God and until I personally am convinced, no one will convince me otherwise not you or your e-mail friends.So was Billy Graham and Franklin Graham today. Remember what you implied years ago trying to please your friends,that you were once hard headed like me but these friends changed you. I am not trying to change anybody and I donât stand in judgment of you all, because Godâs word clearly tells me not to. Please read the comments made on here very carefully before attacking someone, who wasnât talking to you anyway.
Ups, I use scripture when I make a point on here or my own experiences that I have gone through and God has taught me personally. You can take or leave what I say, thatâs your freedom to do. No one guides me on here especially through links. There are wolves everywhere in sheepâs clothing trying to destroy Jesusâs sheep. We are in a spiritual warfare and yes , I have a God given spirit that helps me. Links have taken Billy Graham and Franklin to the cleaners with their judging . I have been torn apart by LB and others on here because I donât believe like they do. Even called mentally ill.by LB because I hear in my heart as God speaks to and you agree with her and others that give out links on here. The ones I donât trust are those that judge and condemn others without anything but their instincts because they donât know me or my lifestyle.
Well Tim, you are so right and JohnUk, thanks for reminding me that Jesus does love đ me even when I donât deserve it. You are right when we are not doing the right things, we certainly are under His discipline and I know it for sure. I try to stay close and be blessed. We do learn from those times of His displeasure. No, havenât had a Bible Study for just women, for a few years. Its more learning to make wreaths, cooking , making quilts for cancer patients on chemo. Thatâs good and all but looking forward to another Bible Study. I donât go by what other people say about someone, I go by my own instincts and Godâs guidance. I have been so judged by people that donât even know me or how I live my life , so I pay no attention to links or those that use them. Ok, thanks for your mentoring, my husband is not a Christian and never discusses things pertaining to the Bible or gospel, I have these I trust on here and a close friend to help me as well.