Girl wrote:
I saw another video of Rob Bell just prior to coming onto Sermonaudio. He seems to forget that a perfect and just God can't simply dismiss sin. He claims that our view of God makes Jesus the person who 'saves us from God'; forgetting that it is God who sent Jesus, and God AS Jesus Christ who saves us. ie ". . . that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation." (2 Cor. 5:19)
Rob Bell makes up a straw man and then attempts to knock it down. He goes against scripture and is clearly an apostate: I don't think we should be surprised. The bible clearly tells us that many such people will rise from among the church. Sad but true.

presbyterian wrote:
1. It was unclear from what you wrote in the post.
2. No. I am not Phil 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
3. You have all the answers John. You didn't like any of the 5 solas I offered in proof text.
End of discussion.

wrappers wrote:
[URL=http://www.sovereigngraceministries.org/blogs/cj-mahaney/post/2011/03/03/Westminster-Catechism-Rap.aspx]]]The Westminster Carechism Rap Curtis Allen[/URL]
Westminster Reformation Rap, yes it is
Switch your brain off and it's just a typical all-sound-the-same rap song. Switch it back on and it is "Christian" rap, but without the hymn sheet (rap sheet?) before you, then you just might not catch all the lyrics. It strikes me that it is just the right music for the new calvinism (New Puritans?) and new bible versions, let us bring down the thrice Holy God to the world's gutter level and our own spiritual level?
How long before it is in a pew near you?
Praise the world for giving the Church rap
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=31811951261]]]A little sanity[/URL]

John UK wrote:
Trouble is, JIm,

I love the KJV wrote:
I have always found proponents of these new "bible" versions lacking humility especially in their ardent and misplaced faith in man.
In talking with my Christian brothers, they all seem to agree. Does anyone else notice this as well?

rhymnrzn2zion wrote:
The one true Lord God in heaven do so unto me and more also if I am lying, or seeking to send you on your way down. But I am not the man to refute every conjured up half-bit rendition of knowledge that turns up from the waves of your search. Yes, the world lieth in sin from day one, but you are taking your quasi-knowledge (which everyone can account for perversions and smokescreens coming from demons, or take it hook line and sinker for all that I can try to stop it) and using it to seek to muzzle the ox.
btw: you are rapping right now, man....

John UK wrote:
The Lord's blessing upon you too, brother!
There has been an amazing program on BBC 4 a few days ago; an hour long look at the King James Bible and its roots. Most wonderful! The presenter claimed not to be a Christian nor Atheist, but all through the program he was singing the praises of this majestic Bible. Interestingly he even read out several portions of scripture and then read out the same portions in a modern version, and effectively blew a raspberry at the modern man's translation of God's pure and wonderful word. Also there were clips of a sandwich-board man walking the streets with a big TBS poster, the one with "I am the Light of the World..." written on it. And also a glimpse into the offices of the TBS, where men were gathered to do their work of Bible publishing in different languages of the world.
I thought it was a very balanced program, despite being presented by an unbeliever, and the Bible was certainly lifted up as the majestic word of the majestic God.

Solforth wrote:
But Frank not everybody can receive the Scripture. What about those people who have been excluded by the Lord from Scripture truth and therefore will not understand the Christian arguement. Surely we need some kind of polemics against homosexuality for those who are not religious, but still hold to the normal and natural relations and traditional lifestyle. Quoting Bible to them won't have the same authority.

2. The scripture is it's own authority, derived from it's author, not from it's reciever.

Amanda (joppy) wrote:
This is cool

Randy wrote:
I think it's amazing how an issue of such importance: Mohler, defending the six day creation, against theistic evolution, got turned into a debate on whether or not God used deception, and if it's alright to use deception in order to promote God's purposes.
Time and again, normaly intellegent people will get caught up in Straing at a Gnat and Swallowing a Camel. Talk about Adventures in Missing the Point!
What's worse, is when someone who has not got caught up in the fiasco, points out what's going on, they get attacked, and treated like morons for not having the intellegence to pick up on the "Subtlties of the Issue".
It really doen't take a lot of intellegence to extricate a Secondary, or Tertiary matter and beat it to death while ingnoring the main and more important issue, therby making the secondary issue the New Issue.
No doubt someone will do that with this post. Or even less creativly, try to point out that this post itself is off topic.
This post is Off Topic from Mohler, and evolution. It is so of Necessity.
Now back to the topic: Mohler's position is right. Even Theistic evolutions treatment of Gen. undermines the rest of the Bible!

Lurker wrote:
Are you sure you want to argue that the sons of God (1 John 3:2) are obligated to and in bondage to the Law of Moses with this proof text?
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil...

Mike wrote:
So now the Lord wants us to rest first, then work?

TenCom wrote:
The Sabbath of course was established by God Himself in the first week of creation. It was further ordained in the Ten Commandments which God Himself wrote. You can't get more authority and power than that.
And yet our Jim rejects God even on this.
[URL=http://reformedonline.com/view/reformedonline/sabbath2.htm]]]The Christian Sabbath[/URL]
[URL=http://www.apuritansmind.com/TheLordsDay/AAHodgeSabbath.htm]]]Sabbath. The Day changed. The Sabbath preserved.[/URL]

Amanda (joppy) wrote:
First and foremost no on is PROabortion. Tell the rape victim she needs to bare a monsters child for 9 months....then YOU pay for her mental health after all is said and done. This app is disappointing so many disgusting bigoted guests on here there is no, balance of opinion.

D Mike Canard wrote:
You got that right! Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

meya wrote:
To be honest we can't take away peoples right to do things we may perceive as bad.

Parents have the right, and responsibility to make sure their children are obedient. You don't just suggest an option to a three year old that is chocking his sister.

Employers have the right to make peole leave the job if they refuse to do the work.

River Jordan wrote:
Thank you for all the responses.
Especial thanks to Joe the Protestant who answered much more like Jesus would have, than you others.
IAE, I'm going to have to talk to my dad about this
before I listen to all of you, but again, thank you for the input.

Having said that, don't buy into the World's philsophy that says that Standards and Dissagreement equals Hate. The leftist crowd believes that the Bible itself is Hate Speech because of all those "Thou Shalt Nots"