John UK wrote: But if I regard "all" as "all men everywhere", ...
Brother John Amen
and there are indeed verses which support your observation and conclusion; for one the conclusion of Romans 9 and beginning of 10
(33) As it is written: â€śBehold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.â€ť
(1) Brethren, my heartâ€™s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. (2) For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. (3) For they being ignorant of Godâ€™s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. (4) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Romans 9:33-10:4
Written by former Christ persecuting Pharisee
Who in my observation while stating the facts/reality of God's sovereignty in Salvation, nevertheless continued in his faith to hold, in my words here, God loves sinners and desires none to perish, so he continues to desire their salvation and prays for them and preachs the Gospel to them
Paul also write Romans 2:4, didn't he . ... the goodness of leads you to repentance
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Kev, before I address your usage of Hebrews 4, I need you to be kind enough to elucidate what you are saying this passage means although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.Â Thanks, retiring for the night. God bless.
U.S. in TN Considering Hebrews 4 I am drawn to consider/meditate on, "Real Biblical Theology" is a theology that knows God, loves God
With prayers that are heard by God And answered by God
For the child of God, one of most beautiful passages of Scripture IMHO is:
(14) Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. (15) For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. (16) Let us therefore come boldly (with confidence) to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:14-16
Christopher000 wrote: Well, I have to move from, this is utter nonsense, to, I hope he wasn't really some creep in his younger years. Five women now, and I'd normally call them, not only liars, but I really have no sympathy for them when they're suddenly offended 40 years later, and immediately preceding a Senate appointment. That's not to take away from the rape, etc., victims of the priests because I understand their fear and shame which kept them silent. Anyway, this over-sensitive climate is a bit much. Nobody should have to endure harassment, etc., but the present climate is being used for political gain. The Clintons and Dems got away with murder, so to speak, but now that there's a new sheriff in town and a new administration, the hipocrisy is astonishing. Anyway, what's causing a little doubt now is that Moore said he has no idea who this latest woman is, yet he signed her yearbook. Although, I suppose she could have just been a student who handed it to him after a lecture or something back then to be signed.
One thing I believe it is safe to say is: The Lord Jesus Christ never throws His own under the bus.
So why are church people, and Republicans so quick to want to join with Satan's side to do that
Ignominius Emirakan wrote: Pray for Moore- a purist
Amen Father, please be jealous for your servant Roy Moore, and for the saints of Alabama, and for the remnant in this country.
Father, vindicate the Holiness of Your Great Name, fill us with Your Spirit and the knowledge of Your will ... to do it humbly, willingly and with JOY, and deliver us from evil, and evil people and Satan's schemes against us, and not just against us but against Your Beloved Son, Jesus Christ
Kev wrote: So your saying that the stripper you talked to told you she was turning from her life as a stripper? God loves all things clean and pure. So since God is love and the natural man is wicked. What part of a wicked man does a Holy God who cannot look upon sin set His heart upon? By all means answer my questions without going down a rabbit trail. God is Love therefore He must hate evil.
KEV Slow down, you don't imagine God attacks the door of a person's heart (Rev 3:20) and demands repent right now (Isaiah 1:18-20) or I'm going to throw your vile sinful self who isn't worthy to untie my sandals (John 1:27) into the hell you deserve right now, do you?
Ever read: Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? Romans 2:4
In my words here, in answer to your question: I believe (it may need refining) that God sets His heart upon the repentance and faith He brings about in very sinful people ... that they might be justified by His grace, cleansed with the Blood Jesus Christ willingly shed for them, be born again of the Holy Spirit to be His precious beloved new creations (children) for all eternity.
John UK wrote: Brother, I too have those psalms as especially loved, and even written mine own music on the Telecaster for them all. Your thoughts blessed me greatly, and I have reached a similar conclusion. Theology has its place, but it is God's will that the simple gospel of salvation through his Son be preached to the whole world of sinners, who have not an ounce of theology to draw on. While Jesus was on earth, the common people heard him gladly, while the Pharisees, the religious and spiritual experts, the scribes and the lawyers, all put Jesus to the test and found him wanting, even though the scriptures they were all so good at reading showed him to be Christ, fulfilling all the OT prophecies. So, amen to your last statement and conclusion.
Brother John, This morning I want to take a brief moment and worship the Lord with the heart of a child
Here is a song expressing child-like love for Jesus
John UK wrote: Psalms 119:58-60 KJV (58)Â I intreated thy favour with my whole heart: be merciful unto me according to thy word. (59)Â I thought on my ways, and turned my feet unto thy testimonies. (60)Â I made haste, and delayed not to keep thy commandments.
Brother John, I love Psalm 119 (also 1 & 19 along with it)
(this is serious) Now considering the Gospel and the Scriptures I am mulling a couple of things over
1. Didn't Jesus tell us: "I assure you,â€ť He said, â€śUnless you are converted and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18:2
hold this in mind: convert and become like children, which relates to: â€śI praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to infants (babes). Matthew 11:25
and 2. "... and you know that from childhood you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to give you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus." 2 Timothy 3:15 IMMEDIATELY BEFORE 3:16,17
So, is it safe to say the "Level of Thoeology" needed and sufficient for Salvation is on the level a young child is able to understand NOT so Sophisticated it takes college level brainwashing?
penned wrote: thanks for sharing this story! I had one of those meetings recently too, where God just puts you at the right time and place. Sometimes people need to hear someone confident in the love and work of Christ, to witness to them, in peace, blessings in Christ to you all...
Thank you, Penned His loving sovereignty makes it a JOY to serve Him, knowing we are so unworthy of His Love for us.
May God grant you more "surprises" if I might use the word, that you might witness with His Love, of the Risen Son of the Living God.
ladybug wrote: AM, please educate yourself before you attempt to correct me.
Dear Ladybug Please do educate all of us, how can you be so vocal against the RCC, and its Jesuits and promote devotion to the teachings of Calvin when he gave so much credence to Augustine Dr of the RCC in developing his systematic theology
And also please do educate all of us, Do you believe God is Love or Not?
And perhaps educate us as well where Psalm 5:5 clearly tells us: "The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes; You hate all who do iniquity." Who were the "workers of iniquity" Jesus most rebuked in the Gospels? Adulterer? Prostitutes? Drunkards? we could come up with quite a list here
Or was it the unloving hypocritical prideful religious elite, who loved their traditon more than the word of God, who did not have the love of God in themselves?
Was He willing to forgive them if they repented? Was Saul of Tarsus a Pharisee before his conversion? Was he a changed man afterwards? How so? Ever notice how often and much he tells believers he loves them in his letters?
Ever notice how John the Apostle encourages believers to love one another? And Jesus to love even our enemies?
ladybug wrote: Sister MS, thanks for the recommendation. As I pointed out earlier, the arminian 'free will' accursed gospel is straight from Rome and its Jesuits, many here are Roman in their theology and deluded as well.
Dear Ladybug I think you might be missing it with regards to Rome and its JESUITS
In a nutshell RC Jesuits would not promote Sola Scriptura and teach of the LOVE of God, shaped and motivated by the Cross and Guided by Scripture and Salvation by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone in Jesus Christ Alone
What they would promote would be an unquestioning loyalty to the Pope,
AND teach not Jesus loves you, Mary does pray to her; and promote RC Catholic Teachers like Augustine [Oops a Dr of the RCC, a favorite of Calvin and many who loudly profess to be anti-Catholic]
Basically your "... straight out of Rome..." view against Traditional Non-Calvinist Christians' view of Salvation through personal faith in Jesus Christ really doesn't hold water, when compared to the business of Religon of the RCC
You might want to dig a bit deeper and even ask yourself if you believe or not, God is Love.
not a robot wrote: "If your church doesnâ€™t condemn sin, and call it what it is, but only preaches â€ślove,â€ť
not a robot (sometime you might want to explain your moniker)
Perhaps you realize we are living in difficult, perilous and times when all sorts of things are confused and mixed up together
But in reply to your question about preaching against sin: Have you ever thought/considered since the two greatest commandment have to do with LOVE, the greatest sins might indeed have to do with failing (or refusing) to Love God and/or actually Love one's neighbor, even one's enemy?
Here is a brief clip, if you care to comment on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voTiUFOEMn8
And to hear more, his sermon: "The Value of Sinners, Prostitutes and Drunkards is IMHO an excellent encouragement to love sinners and witness the Gospel to them.
(Hint: the first 10 minutes or so ought to either catch your attention or perhaps repulse you)
One more brief thing, Yes, we need to part company with the RCC, and those who endorse her perhaps doing so with great humbly and honesty that we not go to far and denigrate the Gospel. BTW do you like Augustine?
John UK wrote: Now I'm off to work. Later.........
Wow! Brother John have you ever touched an electrified rail; the filling of the Holy Spirit!
But you are right we cannot LOVE with the LOVE of God out of our own human abilities; but we can with His
I love the prayer in Ephesians 3
Can I say give an observation with these words? God loves to inhabit the meetings of people who Believe in Jesus and Love Him, people who love one another with His Love, people who love the lost, the poor, the broken and needy ... and even love their enemies too!
a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHXFhJA4SY
Another Prayer: " ... and may the Lord cause you to increase and abound in LOVE for one another, and for all people, just as we also do for you; so that He may establish your hearts without blame in HOLINESS before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all His saints. see 1 Thessalonians 3:12,13
Christopher000 wrote: You bet...God is love, but...a love we might think we understand, but hardly.
A big, probably no where near big enough, Amen! to "God is LOVE" Brother Christopher
And we (believers) are to encourage one another to love and good works. Wow! Talk about the GOOD, ACCEPTABLE and PERFECT WILL OF GOD!
Heb 10 (19) Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, (20) by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, (21) and since we have a great priest over the house of God, (22) let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. (23) Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful;
(24) and let us consider how to stimulate one another TO LOVE and GOOD DEEDS,
(25) not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.
IMHO we ought to never fight against, defame nor discourage the LOVE of God
I fear (and "weep") for you who appear to be fighting against this immeasurably important revelation that God Himself gives us of His Being and Character
In Scripture the Spirit gives us a both a wonderful promise and huge warning ... which IMHO so applies to knowing and having the Love of God; it is this:
"Take care then how you hear, for to the one who has, more will be given, and from the one who has not, even what he thinks that he has will be taken away.â€ť Luke 8:18
The Pharisees, "experts" in the Scriptures, thought they were doing God service in putting Jesus to death.
BUT He had already told them: "But I know that you do not have the love of God within you." John 5:42
And yet, in the Scripture which they had, to Love the LORD our God, with all our hear, soul, mind and strength is the first and foremost commandment; with the second to Love our neighbor as oneself; and they missed this
Apparently they didn't listen to the very Scriptures they so often quoted: â€śYou are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition." see Mark 7:9
IMHO failing to understand the LOVE of God is a mark of the unsaved, it ought NOT be a mark of any Christian teacher
John UK wrote: I've been looking at this text. (5) the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost.... Ah, people would not believe it if I told them what that is like. God is love, and God fills converts with love, his own character.
Brother John, I believe we both believe in a very wonderful experiential faith, that knows His Love for sinners.
A few years back while driving an 18 wheeler, I was parked at a Truck Stop I had no intention of stopping at. BUT God in His Sovereignty had other plans for me.
Taking my Bible in to sit at a table and read, I struck up a conversation with the young woman from the truck parked next to mine. No she wasn't a driver but was riding with a friend. Asking what she did, she told me she was a Stripper. Asking me back, I told her I'm a part-time preacher
She replied, I hate Baptists
I replied, I am a Baptist
And for the next hour or so we had one of the best conversations two people from polar opposites might have about the hurts of life, rejection they have experienced from religious people, and how all of us are broken, fallen and guilty sinners because of Adam & Eve and our own sin
And I got to tell her of Jesus Christ who LOVED her, who she so needed; With His LOVE for her