John Yurich USA wrote: I sent my Baptist Pastor a private message on Facebook a little while ago stating that I am observing Lent this year, that I attended Ash Wednesday Mass this year and that I am abstaining from consuming meat on Fridays during Lent this year. And Pastor stated it was good that I am observing Lent this year and that he is fasting from some things for Lent this year.
You keep following your doctrine of devils: 1 Timothy 4
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM THE FAITH, giving heed to seducing spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 FORBIDDING TO MARRY, and commanding to ABSTAIN FROM MEATS, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Your pastor supports your doctrine of devils, he is a fine example of all that I have been talking about for all to see! Is this by chance? No, it is by Godâs providence!
And Billy supported those who teach the doctrine of devils just like your âpastor.â
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
I doubt bill Grahamâs family is looking at this. This message is a warning we are to be watchmen for the sake of others Iâm not gonna mince my words that is how I see it and if I make my words uncertain how will they prepare themselves.
Salvation is knowing the One true God and Jesus Christ who He has sent. When you love someone you warn them. You have to love Jesus for who He is and who He is given to us by His word and His own will have the love of the Truth.
Angela you say you are reformed right? Take my last comment in light of this real life example I will give. John Yurich has told us HIS PASTOR teaches that election is a quote âsatanic Lieâ do you believe they know the God of the Bible blaspeming God like that? You have a whole bunch of false converts who have not the love of the truth and this is what happens when you are ashamed to preach the full council of the Lord.
Angela where is the respect for the dead of all the people swallowed up by the wolves aka catholic priests the man let in with the new converts at Billy Grahamâs âevangelisticâ conferences? The Bible calls false prophets wolves who are only concerned about feeding their bellies, I had no idea we are suppose to have more respect for a deceiver than the men deceived! Where was the moment of silence for the untold thousand Billy led to Rome and passed away?
Billy Graham made a whole bunch of converts who have not the love of the truth. You tell them who the God of the Bible is, in that He will have mercy on who he will have mercy and He chooses some and passes by others in judgement and has chosen a people from before the foundation of the world and they will say NOT MY GOD. I have seen them compare the God of the bibble to a rapist even! What is salvation:
3 And this is life eternal, that they might KNOW thee the ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, whom thou hast sent.
Do you think that when you show how God works in predestination get love in choosing a people and the people foam from the mouth they know the ONE TRUE GOD? No they hate Him and have created a God for themselves and have not the love of the truth. This is plain and simple.
Letâs examine Billy Grahamâs fruit. Jesus said we will know them by there fruit! He was in league with the satanic RCC, he denies Christ on tv. What would you do if you denied Jesus is THE way and the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but through Him, on tv? Did Billy ever repent of this?
26 For whosoever shall be ASHAMED of me and of MY WORDS, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
Obviously Billy was ashamed that Christ is The way, not a way! The Bible says some even believed Christ but would no confess Him in certain circles because the PRAISES of MEN. John 12:42-50
42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they DID NOT CONFESS him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
43 For they LOVED THE PRAISES OF MEN MORE than the praise of God.
Billy told whoever he was in front of what they wanted to hear and tickled his audiences ears. Anyone who can promote the RCC has NO discernment. Watch the video before you comment unless you donât believe that Billy Graham doesnât actually believe what he said with his own mouth, which is utter nonsense. OOS
My Own 2 cents wrote: Watcher wrote: "You always seem to argue with me...weird." I have nothing against Unprofitable Servant, but about 2 weeks ago he/she picked a fight with me about Facebook, and I was surprised, nonetheless. It does seem that most people here get sniped at by him/her,and I have only been on here only a few weeks. Lately I have just passed it off and amount it to possible hardships. But, after what you have said I can only wonder. Is Unprofitable Servant a man or woman?
UPS is a Brother not a Sister. I disagree with him sometimes and he definitely disagrees with me. I think it is a communication breakdown mainly, most of the time we are talking about two different things when we disagree.
John Yurich USA wrote: Pastor Steve is not a hireling as he preaches the biblical doctrine of salvation every Sunday in his sermons. Pastor Steve is not a Calvinist and that is why he does not believe in salvation election.
You said that Pastor Steve says there is no problem with attending mass. You have said so yourself that the Roman Catholic Church preaches another gospel! What does the Bible say about those who preach another gospel?:
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
The Bible says let them be accursed so of course Pastor Steve has no idea what the Bible teaches if he said it was not sinful to attend the mass. You are supporting an accursed gospel and the enemies of the cross!
Election is plainly taught throughout the Bible itâs not hard to understand if you believe what the word of God says. Predestinated is an English word and it means just what it says pre-destinated. Pastor Steve has no idea what the Bible teaches.
John Yurich USA wrote: I never stated for certain that my Baptist Pastor and the Elders know that couple are also members of the local Catholic parish. Pastor stated it is not a sin for any member of my Baptist Church to attend Mass. Pastor Steve is not a hireling as he preaches the biblical doctrine of salvation every Sunday in his sermons.
I stand corrected then you did not lie as pastor Steve according to you really said that nonsense. But now I am even more sure that your pastor is definitely a hireling as any pastor who says attending the mass isnât wrong and that election is a satanic lie then that person has no idea who God is plain and simple. You are just a âreligiousâ Person and that will not save you, you must be born again. You should get off SA and read the Bible and seek the Lord while He may be found! Anyone born again I couldnât imagine partaking in the blasphemous mass especially when you know they preach another Gospel as you said so yourself.
Watcher wrote: Kev, John is playing you, as far as I can see. No one can continue this sort of robotic behavior unless they're quite out to lunch. John is either nuts or a deceptive troll. He's been rebuked by everyone on this site for years, and he STILL repeats the same drivel time and again. Maybe we should take Paul's example and give him over to Satan to teach him a lesson on blasphemy. Hmmm....
Its pretty simple the way I see it. John, is either special or he is a liar plain and simple.
I know one thing is I would much rather be mentally challenged and an upright man than a liar and âhighly inteligentâ like John always says and says he has no disability. There is nothing wrong with having a mental disability but a liar is a whole other thing!
Yeah my comments are mainly to expose him for what he is and I believe he is just a troll and a liar.
John Yurich USA wrote: Why is there anybody on here who claims to be conservative against Trump and states that Trump is not saved? Trump stated he became Born Again by receiving Christ as his Lord and Savior. Kev, Trump has no signs of being a Christian? He is living his life for Christ, which Obama never did.
So thatâs your definition of living for God? That explains a lot.
You are totally deluded you need to fall on your knees asking God to show mercy on you and save you instead of just figuring your âinâ because you âgave your life to Christâ. You shall know them by their fruit! â Thatâs right Watcher! Our main concern should always be the Glory of God!
John Yurich USA wrote: The Pastor and Elders of my Baptist Church I am sure knew that married couple are also members of the local Catholic parish. Pastor and the Elders of my Baptist Church don't consider it a sin for a Baptist to attend Mass.
Another one of your nonsense lies? How are you âsureâ? Now you spoke for your âpastorâ by saying: âPastor and the Elders of my Baptist Church don't consider it a sin for a Baptist to attend Mass.â
How do you know they believe attending the mass is not a sin, they told you that?
Oh yeah it wouldnât matter what âpastorâ Steve said he is a hireling or you are a liar as you said pastor Steve said Election was a âsatanic lieâ if he really said this no wonder pastor Steve doesnât mind you attend Satanâs church aka the Roman Catholic Church.
The only reason I am responding to your message is to point out your nonsensical lies you come on here with day after day as you push Satanâs church on a Protestant website after many have told you over and over again they find it obfensive.
I wonder how it looks to people when President Trump who canât control his mouth and has no signs of being a Christian quotes the Bible for all to see. Does that bring glory to God? Imagine all the liberals who see Trump as a form of stereo type of a Christian. Itâs no wonder how in the future Christians will go through much tribulation for the word of God. Trump is helping divide this country by acting like he is a Christian while acting like the world. We are suppose to be concerned for our Christian testimony but not much concern about the most famous person in the worlds testimony among all people who see him as a Christian. Iâm sure it helps a lot too that so many Christians embrace him as one of their own. The way so many hate Trump it is no wonder that those same people will hate everything Trump represents and many unknowingly think he represents Christians! So I wonder how good it is when the president drags the scripture into things like this. I see it as all part of the plan for the last days when men will wax worse and worse and hate all Christians so that is fine just come Lord come quickly!
None of my comment was directed at you John it was a general comment. I actually donât believe you fall under what those verses, saying you are accursed. But some are. Wouldnât you agree? I do believe you are mistaken about the Sabbath and you should be fully convinced in your own mind what you do that is between you and God:
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
If you want to esteem one day above another thatâs fine. I just wanted to show what the Bible says about the Sabbath which the body is of Christ. â And this topic has nothing to do with me going to Church on the Lordâs day I faithfully attend out of wanting to praise God and have fellowship with my brethren.
I donât know how this has to do with dispensationalism. Like you said the Kingdom of God is in you and Christ is seated at the throne of your heart penned.
Hey Chris I think the verses I listed makes it clear what bible says. itâs good to show what the Sabbath is so that some wonât go back to the Mosaic Law and tell them to keep the Sabbath. What if keeping the Sabbath in the OT is a work of the Law?
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Itâs best to just look to Christ! Who knows what the heart says inside, do we try to justify ourselfeves by the Law and donât even know it? The Bible I believe sets the believer free so he can serve in the newness of the Spirit. We are like the bond man who has been let go but we say we love our Master and we want to serve Him. The verses I listed are not hard to understand they are very clear. I post this because I think it is an important topic to know what the âLibertyâ is that is talked about in the Bible. It is being free from âthe law of condemnation and deathâ and those who are LED by Spirit are free from the Law(Ministration of Death).
Watcher wrote: It's the old tale, repackaged in many forms. It's called works. Man just cannot bring himself to accept that God is sovereign and he is not. Man will fight and strive to remain on the throne even if it means going to hell. Whether it be adhering to the Sabbath, tithing, using a particular version of the Bible, being members of a particular denomination...it all boils down to what can I do to please God and earn His favor. Newsflash...NOTHING! Only the work of Christ gives us right-standing. Period. You have a blessed night brother. Keep sharpening the sword.
Yup the people who donât understand the picture of what the Sabbath was are usually the ones who donât understand the rest Christ gives. You have a good night Bro
Watcher wrote: Well said fellow soldier. (high-five)
Hope you have been doing well Bro. It seems clear to me the Bible puts it pretty clearly of course there is the tradition of man which makes the word of God of no effect thought. You have a good day Bro.
How come nowhere in the epistles to the first churches there is nowhere any instruction about keeping the Sabbath, surely if that is what they would of wanted there would be some mention of it. But we have verses like this instead:
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Iâm not gonna to go to the Mosaic Law as I am dead to the Law by the body of Christ and I am under the Law of Christ:
1 Corinthians 9:21
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Iâll stick with what the Apostles decided on in Acts 15 in the Council of Jerusalem about the Mosaic Law.
Dave wrote: I have an old KJV, complete with the apocrypha. So if KJV is infallible, did God get it wrong for a short while? Then realise,
Hey there Dave hope all is well mate. I think that the answer might be in the name:
aÂˇpocÂˇryÂˇphal ÉËpĂ¤krÉfÉl/Submit adjective adjective: apocryphal (of a story or statement) of doubtful authenticity, although widely circulated as being true. "an apocryphal story about a former president" synonyms: fictitious, made-up, untrue, fabricated, false, spurious; More unverified, unauthenticated, unsubstantiated; bogus "the possibly apocryphal account of the meeting between Diogenes and Alexander the Great" antonyms: authentic of or belonging to the Apocrypha. adjective: Apocryphal "the Apocryphal Gospel of Thomas"
I think the title gives the work itâs proper place. â I would just ignore some but if you want to confront the person just make sure your careful of how you word it so they wonât delete it but you can still get your point across. Gâday mate!