All 5 points wrote:
Presbys and Baptists with multiple monikers? Confusing at best.

All 5 points wrote:
If you claim there was not a second Reformation and disagree with me, that's one thing, but if there was (and there was) you're disagreeing with a work of God. Better hope you're not wrong, unless you're claiming infallibility aye?

All 5 points wrote:
.. Yeah know, this is hard to apply to such a vast nation and Continent and it won't work in the U.S Europe either.
Maybe that's the plan. Whose? Ephes.6:12

[URL=http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QIv4YF3MaFwC&pg=PT71&lpg=PT71&dq=charles+spurgeon%27s+work+on+John+Wesley&source=bl&ots=_X-PHTF4LW&sig=g5ov1rYJE5h7wxgkqfyd0i1IYJg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dYX-UuCjMo6ThgfmnYDACA&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=charles%20spurgeon%27s%20work%20on%20John%20Wesley&f=false]]] Read from bottom of page which starts with the words THERE IS NO SOUL LIVING who holds more firmly[/URL]

Bible Tulip wrote:
Where you get this "divine" attribute by the sinner to "agree with God" about sin and his hopelessness, when man cannot even discern spiritually is beyond Bible doctrine. You give to man what is not in him to know or use without divine help.

Bible Tulip wrote:
I am sorry that there are some who cannot receive this Biblical truth.

Bible Tulip wrote:
I've noticed before about that GS, that Roman Catholics, Arminians free willers, etc can't read the Bible and subsequently can't read Calvinism!!
TULIP of course is from the work of the Synod of Dordt which established the Biblical doctrines - Against the Heresy of the Arminians and their Remonstrance.
TULIP is the Bible doctrines of Grace.
I am worried about you Baptists not being able to receive the Covenant of Grace - NOR -The Doctrines of Grace!!!

Biblical Presbyterianism wrote:
But don't forget Michael there are many who call Him Lord, Lord and cannot really mean it. Roman Catholics, Arminians, Free willers, Wesleyans et al Cannot be Elect of a Sovereign God. They haven't received the truth of T.U.L.I.P. and obviously come up with fallacy instead of Bible doctrine. So the "people of God" are a particular people whom God and Christ "know" (Mat 7:23) and know them to be Holy and His own.
Jesus states::-
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
Regarding this article and "Christians reject idea of waiting for marriage" (adultery) - These are nominal Christian and probably come from Arminian style churches.
Remember Get Calvinism or Get Lost!!!

"Baptism serves as our confession before men, inasmuch as it is a mark by which we openly declare that we wish to be ranked among the people of God, by which we testify that we concur with all Christians in the worship of one God, and in one religion; by which, in short, we publicly assert our faith, so that not only do our hearts breathe, but our tongues also, and all the members of our body, in every way they can, proclaim the praise of God. In this way, as is meet, everything we have is made subservient to the glory of God, which ought everywhere to be displayed, and others are stimulated by our example to the same course....

Paul says to the Galatians, “As many of you as have been baptised into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3:27). Why so? That they might thereafter live to Christ, to whom previously they had not lived. And though, in adults, the receiving of the sign ought to follow the understanding of its meaning, yet, as will shortly be explained, a different rule must be followed with Children...."

By the Book wrote:
I have presented ALL the Biblical arguments on the Covenant of Grace which God made everlasting, and how circumcision is the precursor to baptism, and the establishment of these points from the NT. All you did was present malice, hate and contempt. As a Christian I don't want to exhibit that side of Baptist ideology on the threads again.

Ruvale wrote:
The reason why the Eunuch is a favourite with the Baptists is discrimination of infants.

Rather what you practice, you have no command or example for and therefore you break your own precious Regulative principle. You act presumptuously and one day you will have to account to The Lord for such presumption. How you think you differ on this from Nadab and Abihu is beyond me.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
You ditch the God of the Bible, note you have NO answer to the fact that songs in Scripture are not all from the book of Psalms except to say you have disdain for the version I used.
The largest proof we have against your pernicious ways is that Scripture plainly teaches God resists the proud. Yet you take great pride that, in your thinking, you are in an elevated status for your inaccurate interpretation over those who don't hold it. If you really followed Christ and the Bible, you would show brokenness that there are those who are being (in your thinking) mislead, instead you make false accusations and snarky remarks.
Your response to a post that is filled with Scripture, is "which other parts of the Word of God do you ditch",while at the same time rejecting all the Scripture that was posted.

John for JESUS wrote:
Unprofitable Servant...
Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (Luke 3:7 NKJV)
These multitude consisted of Pharisees who were not true believers in God.
And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God. (Luke 1:16 NKJV)
I always considered the people believers in God, so there may be some truth to what you said about them not being believers. Interesting! I never thought of it that way.

B.Rith wrote:
God is a Covenant God.

B.Rith wrote:
The water is symbolic - NOT ACTUAL in the ceremony.
"Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee."
By rejecting the command of God and HIS Covenantal precepts you are rejecting the Mediator of the Covenant of God also.

John for JESUS wrote:
Since God commanded the Jews to be baptized for the remission of sins, wasn't it required by Jesus to obey Him in order to remain righteous? If Jesus didn't obey God, wouldn't that have been a sin? Therefore making Jesus unrighteous.

Biblical Christian wrote:
Seems like some who hold to "infant baptism" still have the rags of Romanism clinging to them and they have never read the book of Galations or don't comprehend it

All 5 points wrote:
If Jesus baptism was not unto repentance How did it fulfill all righteousness?

Biblical Christian wrote:
No infant baptism in those verses....

All 5 points wrote:
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

B.Rith wrote:
"Rom 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision FOR THE TRUTH of God, to CONFIRM the PROMISES made unto the FATHERS"