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Survey12/14/06 7:30 AM
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Darn. I forgot something really important.

To add to my list below of which books are for the Jews and which for the Gentiles.

I forgot to mention that

I, II and III John are all written to the Jews only, not to the Christian. So you can skip those books, and don't worry about them. (I know they cause a lot of Christians to sweat and worry, but just don't!)

So add that one in.

Sorry about that!!


Survey12/14/06 7:09 AM
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Arlendoran, pardon me, don't insult me by inferring that I may be some kind of Jezebel. In fact, I teach men's Bible classes, so there you go.

I'm actually somewhat of a hillbilly who lives in Tennessee, which may explain my somewhat blunt manner. And unfortunately my Internet is so slow I can't surf the Net, which is why I have to restrict what I know to my Scofield Bible footnotes and a Bullenger book on Bible numerics I sprang for back 30 years ago.

I'm hoping to get an upgrade in my Internet service soon though, so hope is not lost!


Survey12/14/06 4:04 AM
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Just to clear up any confusion about which books of Scripture are for Christians and which ones aren't -- here they are:

Everything after Acts 20, but nothing before.

All the Pauline epistles except for Hebrews. I don't even think Paul wrote Hebrews and neither does Scofield.

The first three chapters of Revelation are for Christians. All the rest is about the Jews.

I and II Peter were written to the Jews.

Jude was to the Jews, and so was James.

All four gospels were to the Jews, so just skip them. They don't say what you think they do.

Obviously the Old Testament was written to the Jews and we read it only for historical purposes. Christians are living in the church age, the age of grace, and the rules have all changed.


Survey12/14/06 3:51 AM
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Did somebody mention my favorite word -- CONTEXT?

There's lots of definitions and codes you can learn if you have a Scofield Bible -- such as "gospel of grace" and "gospel of Christ." There's also "day of the Lord" and "day of Christ," two completely different things! Also "kingdom of God" and "kingdom of Heaven." And more. You get these fine distinctions from context and reading Scofield's footnotes.

Most of you in the room don't have a clue because you don't have a Scofield Bible, haven't read Bullenger.

Context redefines plain words and meanings, shows which scriptures to discount.

As a Dispensationalist, I know most of the Bible is written for the Jews and doesn't apply to Christians -- just the last few chapters of Acts, the Epistles (but not Hebrews), and that's about it.

The few books for Christians aren't to be taken at face value either. You have to consider context, which knocks out a lot more verses. There's really not much in the Bible that applies to the average Christian when you get right down to it, other than "believe on Jesus and be saved" and the verses about not being snatched out of God's hand.

If you want to know any secret Bible meanings, just ask me. I've got all the answers in my Scofield Bible!


Survey12/14/06 3:47 AM
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Michael from Endicott --

You said, "You've missed it, the entire Scriptures are for Christians."

Not according to my Scofield Bible they are not all for Christians, unless you mean for a historical or literary purpose.

I've taught repeatedly on Sermon Audio that the four gospels, for example, were written to the Jews and only the Jews. Who did Jesus come here for anyway?

You see, if Jesus was talking to the Jews, then that means the message was to the Jews, not the Gentiles. We all know that the disciples were all Jews. Jesus was speaking in code, things that only Jews would understand. They have no application to Gentile believers.

Hebrews was also written to the Jews and only the Jews. That's why it's called "Hebrews" and not "Gentiles."

God's Word is wonderful, but you have to take God at His Word -- and that means context.

I suggest you get a Scofield Bible. It will help you a lot.


Survey12/13/06 9:23 PM
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It seems you will not answer these questions, but they are honest questions. I would really like to read your answer.

Survey12/13/06 9:02 PM
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Mike,

What exactly do you want the verse to say? That God draws only some? How would you go about explaining that as the meaning from the context? And how would reading the verse without the word men strengthen your contention that Christ did not draw all. You have implied that but you have made no effort to explain it.

These same questions and comments are not going anywhere and are getting boring. You may need to think about going to step two.


Survey12/13/06 8:44 PM
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Michael, I had better say this because I can imagine you getting the wrong impression.

7 But contrariwise, when they (The Twelve) saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

There is not two different gospels, but one gospel to two groups to whom the ministry went.

The Jews already had a 1600 year relationship with God and was in transition from the old covenant of law to the new covenant of grace and the gentiles were expereincing a brand new relationship with God through Christ and therefore the need for the particular types of instruction.

Fare Ye Well!


Survey12/13/06 8:34 PM
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7 But contrariwise, when they (The Twelve) saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

James, Peter, and John addressed their letters to Jews! That does not mean it does not have an application to the gentiles within the framework of 2 Ti 3:16,17.

Paul wrote 9 letters to gentile churches that instructs us throughout this whole age in how to walk and please God.

16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

I am just a believer in plain communication skills and I believe God has the greatest skills. He knows how to address whom he will! I know how to read!

You may not agree but this is my position!


Survey12/13/06 8:32 PM
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Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;(Ages) When did he speak to Christians when he was on the earth? (With the exception of the disciples before his ascension) Christians are those who are believers in his death, burial, and resurrection and are called after his name.

The fact is he spoke to the Hebrews at the end of one of those ages that he made. So, the specifics of the letter are applied to them. (I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel).

But did he say anything to you and me specifically. If you can believe this he did!

Ro 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
1Ti 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
2Ti 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.


Survey12/13/06 8:30 PM
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Ex 34:18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

When did you come out of Egypt and are you keeping the feast?

Ge 21:4 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him.

Is this a command for Christians?
3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
4 And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

When Jesus heals you, do you go to the Priest as per the Mosaic Law?

Well, you get the message.

If God addresses certain individuals or certain groups, why is that hard for us to grasp?
Consider Hebrews 1:1,

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, When did God speak unto your fathers in times past by the prophets?


Survey12/13/06 8:29 PM
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Michael,

Since you responded to a post by Smith as if it were mine, I feel I need to clarify my position on the Scripture and it's application.

You said this,

Smith,
You've missed it, the entire Scriptures are for Christians.

Of course I would say a hearty AMEN to that. In fact I would even expand on that some and quote the four-fold benefit all Scripture in the Bible affords us Christians.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The one thing that it doesn't say is that all Scripture is written TO every Christian to obey.

For instance, how would you obey this?
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Or, how about this,

Ge 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

I hope you are not spending your life trying to make an ark!


Survey12/13/06 10:30 AM
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Did somebody mention my favorite word -- CONTEXT? I mean, throw me some red meat, okay?

I know lots of special Scofield definitions and codes such as "gospel of grace" and "gospel of Christ." There's also "day of the Lord" and "day of Christ," two completely different things! Also "kingdom of God" and "kingdom of Heaven." And more.

You don't have a clue because you don't have a Scofield Bible, haven't read Bullenger.

Context redefines plain words and meanings. I'm the only one in the room smart enough to know what context is and which scripture to discount.

As a Dispensationalist, I know most of the Bible is written for the Jews and doesn't apply to Christians -- just the last few chapters of Acts, the Epistles (but not Hebrews), and that's about it.

The few books for Christians aren't to be taken at face value either. You have to consider context, which knocks out a lot more verses. There's really not much in the Bible that applies to the average Christian when you get right down to it, other than "believe on Jesus and be saved" and the verses about not being snatched out of God's hand.

If you want to know any secret Bible meanings, just ask me. I've got all the answers in my Scofield Bible!


Survey12/13/06 10:29 AM
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Just to clear up any confusion about which books of Scripture are for Christians and which ones aren't -- here they are:

Everything after Acts 20, but nothing before.

All the Pauline epistles except for Hebrews. I don't even think Paul wrote Hebrews and neither does Scofield.

The first three chapters of Revelation are for Christians. All the rest is about the Jews.

I and II Peter were written to the Jews.

Jude was to the Jews, and so was James.

All four gospels were to the Jews, so just skip them. They don't say what you think they do.

Obviously the Old Testament was written to the Jews and we read it only for historical purposes. Christians are living in the church age, the age of grace, and the rules have all changed.

I'll be back later to answer any of your silly questions!


Survey12/13/06 10:16 AM
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Survey12/13/06 8:43 AM
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Cont

So then, it is not about seeing and believing, it is about hearing and believing.

But that is not all. We cannot discount the words of God in any way. If he said plainly that he would draw all men unto himself, this must be true and he did at one time in history draw all men unto himself through his Word and Mike said he did not believe the record!

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and [be] not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, [and] which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

The fact that Jesus said these words in chapter 12 around the offer of himself to the Jews as their king is not coincidental either, the number 12 being the number for divine government, but to deal with the passage from that aspect would indeed prove very futile in this crowd!


Survey12/13/06 8:40 AM
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Cont:

The drawing By Jesus of all men will be post resurrection and will not be with physical aids. There are no miracles but there is a record of the miracles in the Scriptures. There is no John the Baptist but there is a record of his ministry in Scripture. We have not heard the voice of the Father when he spoke from heaven but it is recorded in Scripture. So then, the Word of God is how he is drawing men today.

Many years after Israel was no longer a national entity, John wrote;

1 Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 ¶ He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. Cont:

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