Liza J wrote:
Thanks so much for your reply...Most helpful.

I've got to go.

Liza J wrote:
...sounds like Romanism to us,which we (by Gods Grace were delivered from)
Explains a lot..

Their basic approach to the Bible is that there is no difference between the OT and NT, between the old and new covenants.

SteveR wrote:
See how Biblically illiterate you are? yada yada...even the most secular here revile you

OK so I posted a little carelessly. But you still can't show anyone here that OT believers were ever called Christians, because in reality YOU are a complete ignoramus.

And BTW what happened to your contention that OT believers were not born again? Pretty stupid statement, even for an evil hateful little secular troll like you.

Liza J. wrote:
My husband and myself have noticed that in some of the reformed denominations when the subject of born again or from above is discussed that some have a disdain or a snide comment concerning Baptists.
Perhaps someone could enlighten?

SteveR wrote:
{ahem}
RK is referencing the "Hall of Fame" of Saints found in Hebrews 11
They are Christians

R. K. Borill wrote:
GSTexas writes:
And wheres the verse that referrs to John the Baptist orOld Testament saints as Christians?
Hebrews 11:13 KJV
[13] These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them , and embraced them , and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
. . .
Hebrews 11:26 KJV
[26] Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

GSTexas wrote:
And wheres the verse that referrs to John the Baptist orOld Testament saints as Christians?

SteveR wrote:
Well, today they cant seem to decide if Christians existed before Acts 11, if John the Baptist was a Christian or if Old Testament Saints were 'Born Again' or not.

John UK wrote:
He didn't call himself a Christian. Besides, he was born in the OT economy.
And are you saying that the OT saints were not born again?

SteveR wrote:
The Old Testament

SteveR wrote:
You are worse. At least the fool that did that knew it was a joke. You on the other hand feel justified when you mock the beliefs of Christians.

John Yurich USA wrote:
What kind of a stupid way of thinking is that to state that there is only Born Again Christians and not Non Born Again Christians? One who worships Jesus as God but has not embraced Him as their Savior is a Non Born Again Christian.

Phoebe wrote:
I tell you this man went down to his house justified rather than the other for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled and he who humbles himself will be exalted. Luke 18:14

Phoebe wrote:
To clarify:
As far as I am aware it is God not Lisa or Ladybug or anyone else on this site who admits or not to eternal life.

Phoebe wrote:
It is true He knows his own - but He doesn't tell you or Lisa or anyone else who his own are. This you do all by yourselves - to make yourselves seem righteous in your own eyes.
Correction: Titus 1:15 reads ....

We've got used to verse launchers here who use the Scriptures to convey their own personal opinions, as though the Word of God can be so lighty treated with impunity.

What works have you seen here that deny God, are abominable, disobedient etc. I would say that those descriptions more aptly describe your worldly heart!

SteveR wrote:
In case anyone new is in the audience, please dont believe those who intentionally misrepresent my position. Im a Christian in the Reformed tradition that doesnt believe that daily bashing of Christians in the RCC on this message board is an edifying endeavour.

Phoebe wrote:
This my anathema (above)
I would be afraid of a Creator who can destroy his own temple repeatedly if I were you.
The world does not hate you. The world hates Me.

Phoebe wrote:
I thought the point was the hilarity of an insignificant cloister of control freaks and legalists and their outrage over anything other people are doing which you haven't sanctioned first.
Evil appears to be whatever you say it is, and is the subject you are most interested in - the evil in others that is.
You appear to believe if you say a thing The Creator is obligated to agree with you.
I thought the main theme was the subject of evil residing in others and how to condemn it within a purely legalistic framework. You remind me of hyena's.
You don't so much offer informed opinions as follow each other into a labyrinth of apoplexy.
You seem to view yourselves as authorities on every subject, and think being righteous depends on making others 'unrighteous'.
Nasssty little Christianessse.
I'm just helping you to understand how you are viewed out there in the world you have nothing to do with.

a witness wrote:
They had to display Christian life in an absolute Biblical way, by grace, in doctrine and community life

Pastor Mike wrote:
There's no contradiction between any of my statements. Nice try though.
Hint: You just lost the debate. Give it up!
You're welcome.

Mike wrote:
PS, Just to help you sleep better tonight, I'm not Arminian.

Alan H wrote:
The fact that Really said, "Now you're thinking biblically " should cause red flags to go up.

Reconciliation is a 2 way street- something that is not part of your reckoning and hence your mistaken notions about the subject. Observe:

2 Corinthians 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath RECONCILED US TO HIMSELF by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;