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 10/9/07 9:24 PM |
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Alan H., keep up the good work, brother 
Abigail, you will have a chance to extricate yourself from Spiritual, at least partially. Do you agree with him that the physical blood of Adam was tainted by sin? Do you agree with him that the actual blood of Christ is infused into the veins of a believer? Do you agree with him that because of this, you can have the physical mind of Christ because that blood purifies your brain? Do you agree with him that this is why a person can be sinlessly perfect in this life? I know that you still believe that the greater part of the work for salvation and sanctification rests with the individual, but if we can get you to deny what Spiritual wrote in regard to these questions, at least we will be heading in the right direction!
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. |
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| 9/29/07 10:15 PM |
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Abigail, Paul said that he was the chief of sinners. Peter, nor any of the other disciples, considered themselves better than anyone else. I give great regard to the Word of God, as the Word of God, not of men. The disciples were instruments, just as we are, to be used by God as He sees fit. Having said that, I do not hold the other men I listed in any higher regard than I do the disciples. But neither do I hold them in any lesser regard. My point was that, just as you and some others like to prove your spirituality by saying, "I am of Christ" (kind of like the immature Corinthian believers), I am saying that these men whom God has used in times past, and even today, are instruments for God's use. The disciples were not of greater worth because they penned scripture. It was not their doing, God receives all the glory. They were just clay in the Potter's hands. If you think that you are so spiritual that the Holy Spirit speaks directly to you and that you don't need a teacher, then why go to church? You don't need a pastor or anyone else. BTW, that places you higher than the disciples because they were even checked out by the NOBLE Bereans. Don't think to highly of yourself, Abigail. It's a long fall! |
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| 9/29/07 9:55 PM |
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Yamil, I will get us started on Romans 9. Verses 6 and 7 state where Paul is going with this text, "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called." He is clearly pointing out the "spiritual" children of Abraham, as opposed to the physical descendants. Who are the "spiritual children"? We see the answer to that in verses 24-26. The quote from Hosea speaks not only of the Jews, but Gentiles who belong to the family of God. Now, we have in the middle of this text the verses refering to unconditional election ("For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth"). You can give this section no other name but "unconditional election". The verses before it speak of salvation, the verses after it speak of salvation. Why should the verses in the middle be any different? Paul then uses verses 14-23 to give examples of this truth and to prepare for the response of the nay-sayers. This text deals with God's sovereignty in salvation from beginning to end. |
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| 9/29/07 5:08 PM |
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JD, and I quote, "God always presents Israel in a two-fold manner. Fleshly and spiritual, The spiritual are always the remnant at any given time. Today they are the remnant according to the election of grace." You used the Calvinistic term "election of grace". What do you mean by that phrase? And what about Paul? If his salvation was not according to election, why doesn't Christ just appear to everyone? You said you would be willing to comment, so, please do. I have one more question. Do you believe, JD, that salvation is by grace through faith throughout the Bible or were people saved in different ways in different dispensations? Thanks.
I agree, Walt. It is a shame that there are those who will throw out anything written by men who knew God in previous generations. I have seen wisdom from Calvin, Matthew Henry, Spurgeon, and others on this site, and many times it is treated with contempt and ridicule. If we were half as sppiritual as many of these people were, we (the church) may not be in the condition we are today! |
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| 9/29/07 4:31 PM |
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Walt, yes Infection and Yamil are one and the same. If you ever want to see where he has come ferom over a period of time, some of his other monikers were Weapon of Mass Instruction and sometimes he used his whole name, Yamil Luciano. Even though he and I don't always agree, I have enjoyed conversing with him, and I have to admit, he makes me laugh with some of his comebacks. Having said that, and I have stated this openly, I don't agree with the tone or nature of some of his replies.
Thanks for the link. I will check it out. I will tell you that I guess I would call myself an Independent Baptist who believes in the doctrines of grace. I don't consider myself a Calvinist becuase that would include much more than those truths. As I have read and studied both the Bible and writers from both sides, I have seen how it may be difficult, in the long run, to maintain this position, but, at present, that is where I am. |
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| 9/29/07 2:33 PM |
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Hello, Walt. I'm enjoying your posts. I would have to say that JD will point out one more time when we will see God unconditionally elect a group of people to salvation. That would be the nation of Israel at the second coming of Christ. Dispensationalists believe that the nation will be saved as a whole when they see Christ. As one who is a dispensationalist and believes in the doctrines of grace, I have no problem with that. However, I'm not sure how JD would explain it. Have a great afternoon, brother |
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| 9/28/07 11:24 PM |
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Actually, it is 11:15 PM here and I have had a long day. I went to work at 6:30 AM and got home at about 4:20 PM (I'm a bi-vocational pastor). I got cleaned up and then drove about 20 miles to see my dad who is in the hospital. I got home from there at about 7:00 PM and thought I would check things out here. I never expected to get this far, so I am going to wait until tomorrow. I need to get some sleep. I have to be up at 3:30 AM tomorrow morning. This isn't a bail, just good common sense. Good night to all, and, unless Jesus comes back while I'm asleep, I'll see you tomorrow. If He does come back tonight, I'll see most of you in the air!! |
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| 9/28/07 10:52 PM |
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Yamil, it's interesting you added that last part. I was just thinking of the key passage on unconditional election, Romans 9. It's interesting that Paul expected the same kind of reaction from his audience that most give on this site; calling God unfair in choosing whom He will by His own sovereign will. I know that you will most likely have an answer for this passage, but how do you explain Paul's defense against the expected reaction? If free-will Arminianism is correct, there would not be such a reaction because man wants to have a part in his salvation. If conditional election is the answer than Paul would not have expected such a reaction because it would not make God seem unfair. You may be able to explain away the text, but you can't explain away the response Paul knew he would get in saying that God could choose to do as He pleased because He is sovereign.
BTW, notice, no commentaries or quotes and it didn't take me an hour and a half |
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| 9/28/07 7:39 PM |
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Abigail and Spiritual, I find it interesting that you consistently repeat, "the sinner must..., he has to..., etc., etc., and then you talk about grace. Guess what? You can't have it both ways. If the sinner must do ANYTHING, than it is not of grace. Grace is God's unmerited favor toward someone who is not only not desering of it, but actually deserves just the opposite! If it is of works, it is no longer grace. If it is of grace, then NOTHING that we do can add to it! |
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