In regards to John 2, you still have a problem on your hands with Him changing water into Wine. If it were wrong, He led them into sin, making Him even more guilty. I don't think you would be willing to say that.
I won't argue with you there whether He drank or not(I believe He did), but there are other accounts where we know He drank wine.
For Hab 2, if you knew that, why bring it up, when it has nothing to do with drinking at all.
For Lev. 10, you're right it does say when, but my point still stands. You make it stronger even by using "when". So then it's "only when" they go in the tent that they are not to drink wine and strong drink. Why would God even say that, if they didn't drink it any other time? That shouldn't had even been an issue.
Lev. 10:8-11 "Drink no wine or strong drink, you or your sons with you, when you go into the tent of meeting, lest you die. It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations."
Where's your arguemnt?
Where is this destruction? I only ask that you show me from scripture how it's wrong to drink alcohol. I've given you the common courtesy as to show my convictions by scripture. Surely you have the evidence to back your claims because of your strong conviction?
Lev. 10:9-11? No, he was not guilty of this either. Itâ€™s odd that you say that I need to learn to read English, when this text clearly says nothing against drinking in and of itself. But it does say that Aaron, nor his sons, were to drink wine, or strong drink, BEFORE ENTERING INTO THE TENT OF MEETING, or as your perfect Bible puts it, â€śTABERNACLEâ€ť.
So with that said brother, I hope that you can at least acknowledge the scriptures Iâ€™ve put forth and deal with them. I wonâ€™t continue going back and forth with you when you show a lack of concern for biblical exegesis
. It still wouldnâ€™t matter because we know He changed the water into the wine so that they could drink it. It was a miracle, but it was also something that God had done in the OT. He gave them wine as a covenant blessing (e.g. Gen. 27:28; Deut. 7:13; 11:14; 33:28) . Christ was blessing the wedding, with the best wine, not grape juice.
And itâ€™s actually funny that you would call me a wino, because that is what they called Jesus in Matt 11:19. Cause even your own KJV, written in perfect English, uses the word â€świnebibberâ€ť, or as you prefer to use, â€świnoâ€ť. Apparently, they, like you, didnâ€™t appreciate that Christ drank wine.
Hab 2:15? No, he was not guilty of this. Considering Jesus was not the Babylonian King who involved other kings in his own evil affairs. Not only did this king get other neighboring kings involved in his greed for domination, but he got them involved so that they could help him, and once they helped, he would dominate them, leaving them naked and helpless. This is a prophecy concerning the Babylonian king, not a mandate against drinking alcohol.
Youâ€™re right, it does say drink and not drunken. Iâ€™m not sure if you were actually reading my post to build or to critique it ahead of time. Iâ€™m going with the latter considering I never said that Romans said â€śdrunkenâ€ť. I only said that, like the other passages, it didnâ€™t condemn drinking. I donâ€™t think this is a debate, because if it were, you would have responded back with scripture and/or context to show how I was wrong. But instead you try to insult me and close your ears to hearing truth by saying that you donâ€™t care what the â€śgreekâ€ť says. I donâ€™t know you, but if I were to judge your character based off of this one incident, it would show that your willingness to study Godâ€™s Word would be less than commendable. It really shows that you donâ€™t care what the word of God says, even when it shows you where you err, youâ€™ll still hold to whatever it is that makes you feel better at the end of the day. You say you have the perfect English Bible? Are all other translations written in other languages less than your KJV? Which KJV do you have? The original, or the revised? The account in John 2 doesnâ€™t say that Christ actually drank the wine. And if you want to argue that He didnâ€™t, then I wonâ€™t argue with you there, but I think that would be a weak argument.
Actually Bro. Williams, you have only posted verses that condemn drunkeness, not drinking. As for Romans 14, it also doesn't condemn it either, only that we are not to cause our brother to stumble. You don't consider eating certain foods to be sin, but Paul also speaks of eating as well causing brothers to stumble, not just the drinking.
I find it funny that people try to explain away without warrant the fact that Christ drank. The unfermented wine bit doesn't really carry any weight. I say that because the same Greek work for wine in John, is the same greek word in Ephesians where Paul says to not be drunk of wine, but filled with the Spirit. How can you get drunk off of grape juice?
I do hope however that the church that is doing this does stand up and condemn drunkeness.