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News Item7/2/07 1:45 PM
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Neil--
That's the thing. It isn't legally relevant because it was never meant to be a law code. It was meant to be the philosophical justification of a forthcoming full account of laws. The basic philosophical tenets people construct their thoughts on ALWAYS matter.

To be clear, I'm not arguing God was central to the fundamental political thought of our founders in the RELIGIOUS sense--they liked religion plenty but mainly were interested in it from a pragmatic viewpoint (inculcating civic and moral virtue). What I am arguing is that God was central to the philosophical justifications of their thinking on law (which was part of that philosophical tradition called natural law theory). And aside from the Dec., the Constitutional division of powers comes directly from Montesquieu's work on ancient laws, and, something in Isaiah which looks like division of powers. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" comes from the Stoic philosopher Epictetus. Jefferson in choosing these words is both rebuking Locke and associating the document with the Stoic natural law tradition (a tradition that Paul stands in as well in Romans 1).

EVERY system of laws is predicated on SOME philosophy of law. The Dec. is our philosophy of law. Without it our laws would be arbitrary. More later.


News Item7/2/07 1:27 PM
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savedbygrace,

No I haven't heard of Dr. George Grant. I'll have to check him out!

I think it's great the way in more recent years believing Christians are returning to the academy, especially when people like this professor of Moral Philosophy are associated with home schooling. And I think there's a real place for Philosophy in home-school culture. There are a lot of perverse philosophies undergirding the assumptions of broader culture, and they need philosophical answers in many cases.

God bless you for putting three kids through home school! It must have been a lot of work, but fun too, I imagine (I haven't got kids yet but I used to teach kindergarten). Not everybody can do it, but I think home-school culture is a good thing and on the rise. The schools are bankrupt even in the plain sense of teaching and knowledge, I think, even more than they're spiritually bankrupt. The schools are making our kids imbeciles and (as far as compulsory public education) much of Europe is kicking our behinds. Our universities are still great and among the best in the world, but if our abhorrent public ed. continues as it has, in a generation or two these imbeciles will be running our universities too (into the ground). God bless you for keeping good books in the house too.


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Wayne M.--
To answer some of what you were saying, by saying that mainline Protestantism is antinomian, I mean they are antinomian in the sense that Paul's opponents in Galatia accused him of and he repudiated. (and by mainline I mean churches like the PCUSA, ELCA, etc.). Everywhere mainline churches are hemmhoraging members and facing financial shortfalls. My mom (still very very liberal PCUSA) sometimes complains about this and I tell her that it's the church's own fault--they have jettisoned scripture and with it (for example) the command to tithe (which I see as an operative command). No wonder no one gives--Jesus doesn't ask them too! In fact He doesn't ask them to do anything at all, except to accept every abberant lifestyle in the name of Jesus as if it were ok.

As far as the doctrinal level,I understand the fundamental doctrines concerning law and grace; it's just difficult sorting out where commands fit into the economy of God. Bonhoeffer, for example thinks obedience and faith are one and the same thing, and can't be effectually divided. I just mean I haven't got sorted out yet what I believe concerning the intricacies of things. And on the practical level, I just mean it's tough to find congregations (or denominations in general) which have a balanced practicalview


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If anyone's interested, there's a really good book about Islam called "Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq. The name is patterned after Bertrand Russell's "Why I am not a Christian." Warraq is either an atheist or an agnostic now (a former Muslim), and what's good about his book is that it isn't vulnerable to the "well you're biased because you're a Christian" nonsense. Warraq does however respect Christianity and Western Civilization greatly. So, in a manner of speaking, his critique is "unbiased." Furthermore, his work is impeccably researched and cited, unlike most Christian critiques of Islam which are vulnerable to the criticism that they are poorly researched and cited (e.g. many books Intervarsity Press puts out--they're a particularly sloppy publishing house in most cases).

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News Item7/2/07 12:41 PM
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Neil--
The Constitution didn't need to present the philosophical origin of our rights--the Declaration had already done that. The Constitution is no more important a document than the Declaration--both were equally needed, both were laboriously considered, and both were ratified by the 13 colonies. I don't know why people always gravitate toward what the Constitution says or doesn't say--rather one should consider the collection of the documents.

MORE IMPORTANTLY--most people didn't want a list of rights of any kind in the constitution, precisely because common understanding was that GOD gives rights and government therefore cannot give rights. For the government to list rights would be for it to confer rights, and the government could not confer rights that only a God can confer. In the end the Bill of Rights had to be appended to in order to get a couple dissenting colonies on board.

Point is, that goes to show you how deeply entrenched the notion was that right and wrong as categories can only be defined by a God--it was the heyday of natural law philosophy and following the ancient trajectory that England had been following--that is that kings and the laws of men are derived FROM GOD, or else they are illegitimate. Nobody thought you could have rights w/o God.


News Item7/1/07 8:30 PM
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Neil--
Thanks for your (as usual) measured remarks (and further information on the subject--I didn't know about the Churchill oil/coal thing).

To add to what I meant, people thinking about eschatological issues think of biblical 'Babylon' as meaning Iraq, which is nonsense--Babylon was both a nation and a political reality. Iraq may be a political reality, but is no nation. In WWI when the former Ottoman lands fell to the British and the French upon the Ottoman Empire's defeat, Iraq was one of those silly made up entities which is a fictional 'nation' and not a real nation. Yugoslavia was another idealistic, naive League of Nations invention, yoking together Muslims, Catholics, Orthodox, Serbs and Croats, speakers of Serbo-Croat and Bosnian, etc. It was bound to fail as the 'nation' of Iraq is bound to fail because it is a fiction.

Too many people (like John Hagee) build their eschatology on the silly misunderstanding that 'nation' in the Bible means what we mean by a state or political nation today. They're always saying "the nation of such and such...this means this and this country." Nonsense. Thus the 'nation' (i.e. people) of the Perizzites, for example, means a tribe, not a 'country'. A simple enough distinction, but people come out with asinine eschatologies w/o it.


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To whoever posted this survey question--
I think this is a really good (and important) survey question, and it's quite interesting to see the results of those who've answered (I answered "largely ignored" and found I was in agreement with the majority).

I have struggled in my own Christian journey in terms of how to sort out a balanced understanding and practice of these issues (and I still haven't got it worked out). I was raised mainline (i.e. liberal) Protestant--PCUSA. Eventually I became a Christian, began fervently studying God's Word, and, as a result, left the PCUSA and have since drifted from place to place trying to find a 'home' so-to-speak. Mainline Protestantism, in my estimation, is antinomian to its rotted-out core.

I spent some time in a great nondenominational congregation which was a split-off from the Assemblies of God. They were sort of a hybrid of charismatic and evangelical, and they on the other hand, tended to be somewhat legalistic (not to mention anti-intellectual and discouraging of university education). But what impressed me about them and still does is that they had a deep conviction and concern for HOLINESS.

In grad school I met lots of people with perfect conservative doctrine but no desire for holiness. It's tough to find a balance.


News Item7/1/07 6:29 PM
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Abigail--
Try an encyclopedia instead. Do a little research (even wikipedia would probably be fine) and you'll discover the Kurds are the historic Medes, and have been without a kingdom of their own since the Persians co-opted their empire 2300 years ago. The Kurds speak a language called Kurdish which is essentially the ancient Medean language (though of course with some changes throughout the centuries). Iran was called Persia throughout all of history until 1979 when the Mullahs took over and gave the country the racial name (Iryan = Aryan). The Iranians speak the Persian language (Farsi), not Kurdish. And Kurds don't speak Farsi natively. Do a little more research and you'll find there is a region encompassed by eastern Turkey, parts of Syria and Iraq, and western Iran, which is called "Kurdistan" (= "Kurd land"). Kurds and Persians are different races with different languages. That's why Turks and Persians persecute Kurds. Furthermore their religions differ--Persians are Shi'a Muslims while Kurds are a mixture of Zoroastrian, ancient Medean pagan, Christian, Sunni Islam, and Shi'a Islam.

Iraq is a recent invention--a mish-mash of Kurds, Sunnis, Shites, speakers of Farsi, Kurdish, Arabic, etc. There's no 'Iraqi' race.


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Personally I think Anglican bishops are a judgment on western society

(as far as American Anglican bishops go)


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Abigail--
I'm no fan of Bush at all but he's nowhere near what the Muslim Brotherhood is. He's just a fool, and a big one. The Muslim Brotherhood is something else entirely.

...and the Medes are the modern-day Kurds, not the Iranians (who are the Persians)--different races with different languages. And Babylon isn't Iraq, it's Babylon. Iraq is a seventy-year-old fiction of the 'League of Nations'. Nations in the bible means tribes or peoples, not modern-day political states. Yugoslavia was a state, not a nation, because there is no "Yugoslav" people just like there's no 'Iraqi' people.


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Two words: Benny Hinn

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Point taken, I just meant Das Kapital in that Obama is a thoroughgoing socialist and probably agrees with far more of the teachings found in Marx's writings than those of the Bible.

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Paul had told the Corinthians in his first (lost to us) letter to the Corinthians something about avoiding immoral people. Some of the Corinthians were interpreting Paul as advising they separate utterly from the world, but he answers them in 1 Cor. 5:9-11 that this isn't what he meant.

Should no Christians get university degrees either? No Christian lawyers, doctors, professors, etc. to witness to the world? The instinct to fly away from the public is precisely why the public (and higher education) are so liberal and secular--all the Christians got scared and ran away. Abolish, are you sure you're not a closet Essene?


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Silly question. Of course He can.

As for free will and predestination, evidence for both is found in scripture because, far from being opposed, the two are compatible, which is what Calvin seems to have thought anyway, not to mention Luther (however much this has been clouded over by the nonsense of Dordt Calvinism).


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I sometimes wonder if it won't be a Muslim leader after the fashion of Muhammad. After all, John says the Antichrist was of us but never was one of us. hat would fit Muhammad pretty well, as he was raised a Nestorian Christian a (a heretical form of Christianity--therefore of us but never really one of us).

Of course that wouldn't gel with what also seems to be the case about the Antichrist and synchretism. I know a lot of people have silly debates about whether they are a preterist or a futurist (as one can't be both). I tend to think John in the Revelation is describing events of persecution in his own time, but that at once these events are a Scofieldian sort of type for a greater repetition of them in the end--and that would look more like the traditional synchretist interepretation.

Oh well, maybe I'll just go with that and reserve Muhammad/Islam for the role of the False Prophet, like John Calvin did .


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Here's an article that chews up Al Bore's global warming movie:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/450392,CST-EDT-REF30b.article


News Item7/1/07 9:52 AM
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Problem is, the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist outfit from way back (really came to the fore in the Muslim revolt of 1923). Hamas was created not long agao as the Muslim Brotherhood's military wing. That's the way they do things over there: (1) create a terrorist outfit (like the Muslim Brotherhood), then when it becomes too well-known, (2) shift its official priorities to "community" things and "fundraising." At the same time (3) take part of the organization and create a "splinter" organization (in this case Hamas). The Muslim Brotherhood did this and then when Hamas does something they can say "oh that wasn't us, that was Hamas--they're some crazies who splintered off from us." Even though Muslim Brotherhood's board of directors WAS THE EXACT SAME GROUP OF MEN WHO FOUNDED AND LED HAMAS. Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood gets to mainstreamed, accepted, and can raise buku bucks for terrorism and militant Islamic doctrinal teaching in mosques and madrasas.

That's the way terrorist outfits are created, mainstreamed, and accepted--by fictitiously pretending that that they are not the terrorists, but some rogue element is. It's the same way Islamic Jihad was created, and, for that matter "Fatah" as the military wing of the PLO--it's all the same thing. They're all terrorists.


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Cbcpreacher--
I think your comments are right on the money. On the one hand our nation was founded upon some fundamental Christian (philosophical) principles which were great and which we should be eminently thankful for God's grace for (having lived overseas myself and thereby greatly grown in appreciation of America's founding principles), but Christian philosophical principles do not a Christian nation make, and we are sorely deluded if we think this nation or any other is a "Christian" nation. All the more so, because as you rightly point out, nations and other things are not Christian, only persons. The idea of a Christian nation is utterly unscriptural--our citizenship is in a foreign Kingdom. Too many otherwise well-intentioned people (e.g. Dobson, Lahaye, Falwell, the Moral Majority crowd) don't get this fact and get mixed up in trying to bring heaven to earth by politics. In doing this they inevitably get mixed up in weird Republican political agendas which have nothing to do with the Gospel. But politics is fallen by nature like everything else man attempts in the natural.

Like Augustine put it, two cities were born of two loves; one the city of man by the love of self and contempt of God, and the City of God from the love of God and contempt of self.


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I've heard a lot of stuff in the past (as I'm sure many of us have) about the Chaplaincy's antipathy toward evangelical chaplains (i.e. allowing Catholic, Jewish, and mainline Protestant while hindering evangelicals and other conservatives in all sorts of ways--along with prayer in Jesus' name specifically). But now Ali Baba and his forty thieves, the sheikh of the burning sands, enslaver of women, murderer of black Africans and Jews, etc. has a place in the Chaplaincy to promote a spirit of domination, hatred and enslavement (aka Allah).

Just goes to show you how fascinatingly correct Scripture is, that is in terms of the way in which the spirit of the world (that is, the spirit of Antichrist) hates the Lord and will tolerate anything other than His true gospel. It also goes to show the way in which the Lutheran/Calvinist notion of the bondage of the will outside of Christ's liberation from sin causes people to work and live according to this system unwittingly, and, in many cases, unintentionally--so strong is our fallen default setting of hatred of the Lord of the Universe and His saving gospel.

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