Dolores wrote:
...I was only trying to show TS his error but I guess it didn't go over too well.

I asked a whole load of questions of you to try and figure out your take on my posts, but did not get very far. If you object to my taking errorists to task, or even like the Lord and his apostles referring to them as foxes, dogs etc (my equivalent troll), then I am not ashamed, and more than happy to be judged by The Lord for such name calling.

Elmer K. Yoder wrote:
"Doctrinal accuracy of Calvinism"
That was a funny.
Anyway, what day is this sabbath you all be speaking of?

John UK wrote:
Yes indeed, in my reading of scripture, the Lord takes the subject seriously, and he takes the Sabbath rest seriously, and it is all for our benefit, seeing the Sabbath was made for man.
I am looking into all this, very slowly and carefully, simply for this reason. I'm sure most will agree with me on this, that having received such amazing grace from the holy God, we would want to please him above all things, giving unto him all things, and rejoicing in him above all things, learning about what pleases him as Father, and look the world in the eye, rejecting their temptations, and say loudly, "I am God's man!"
During times of revival, the Sabbath was never enough to satisfy the spiritual hunger of ordinary men and women. It became a feast every day of the week. Oh for such times of refreshing again from the Lord! No more tiredness, singing from heart-felt gratitude, joying in God, seeing souls BORN AGAIN! Yea, oh yea.

John UK wrote:
The problem as I see it, is that the Sabbath can only be a delight to a Christian who is filled with God - by his Spirit. In such a case, a whole day spent with the Lord is really special, especially if it is spent also in the company of the saints, singing, praying, worshipping, gaining strength for the weak ahead, learning more about Jesus the Beloved, breaking bread together, being filled again through prayer and waiting on God.
But what happens when the believer no longer has that intimate experience of God? How then is their worship? Formal, hopeful, ritual? Any different to religious services? The light is still there, but no fire. There is a spark, but no explosive power. What then can happen on the Sabbath? Not very much.

pennned wrote:
Troll Spotter, it is not my intention to persuade you to lie or to hide your light under a bushel. or to be politically correct. with your moniker, it is hard to even place you personally with who you may be. please understand I am not trying to be a discouragement to you. I'll just leave it at that and let you respond. the Lord bless you and grant you peace.

I understand that you don't mean to discourage me, and I thank you for the opportunity to explain the rationale for the different treatment of genuine Christians who may fumble and stumble in their understanding and those who are inveterate enemies of the gospel.

I have enjoyed your posts and learned much. Thank you for that too.

Dorcas wrote:
Sometimes on these forums when we take a stand for the truth we can say with brother Paul.."Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth"?
Galations 4:16

Dorcas wrote:
TS,
It has been objected by most that the Sabbath precept in the OT was entirely of a typical and ceremonial nature, looking forward to that spiritual rest which our Lord Jesus Christ should provide, and that when the substance was brought in, the shadow was done away.
But were that the case, then the Moral Law consists of only nine and not "Ten Commandments".
To their shame and ignorance we have heard preachers teach this.

But you're spot on. The Lord gave us 10 commandments which are so inextricably linked that they stand or fall together.

pennned wrote:
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"But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy." James 3:17

1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

Do you suppose verse 2 above was unpure, not peaceable, not gentle, unreasonable, not merciful, not good fruit, wavering, full of hypocrisy?

There is a huge difference between how we're to treat some who fall into mistaken notions who however are prepared to learn, and those who are incorrigible supporters of devilish doctrines and who seek to promote them.

Or do you suppose that the Holy Spirit contradicted himself in giving us James 3.17 and Philippians 3.2 and verses like it? I could give examples from our Lord too, but you get the gist.

The world and the devil have gotten too used to meek, mild, mealy mouthed politically correct Christians who wouldn't say boo to a goose. That's why we're in a mess. I want no part of such an attitude to all that is false and opposes The Lord and his kingdom.

Dorcas wrote:
Most meeting houses in the States consider you a legalist if you honour the Lord Day all day.

Shane wrote:
So...over the weekend, my family was blessed with some chickens and a rooster, a female goat(for milk) and a male goat(for procreation purposes). Almost immediately the male goat started harassing the female goat. To the point that we thought it was going to hurt her. So I sprang into action and took the male goat by the horns down to the ground into submission. When I knew he submitted, I let him get up. He seemed docile. But he quickly reverted back to trying to attack her. So I repeated what I did before to bring him into submission. He's not as bad as he was when we first got him. But, It's an ongoing process, and I have to keep wrestling him to the ground when he challenges authority.
Thought that the weekends events were a fitting story to tell.

BTW thanks for also bearing witness against Dopey. I'm sure that must have surprised him. But he needs to know that he's out of order.

Frank wrote:
SteveR is below.
Cute? Dont think so.
Listen Frank, I just talked it over with the big shots over here. We really dont like you using our words that you dont understand to appear intelligent. Do you think it was easy for us to think up such long words? Those are some pretty long words! Sure, its easy for you with all kinds of time and free cyberspace to display your ignorance showing off but what about the fortune we spent on typesetting 'Infralapsarianism' and 'Supralapsarianism' all these centuries just to have you ruin their meaning in 2013?
I tell you what, you want to critique our form of baptism...fine!
You want to redefine words to justify your form of baptism? Big deal, it just makes you look more ignorant than you are.
But after centuries of raising pedigree Swans for their quills, we wont stand for you redefining 'Infralapsarianism and Supralapsarianism'

1517 wrote:
...The LGBT community is a tool of God to weed fakes like this man. I praise God for it. An unmasked wolf is better than counterfeit sheep.

Frank wrote:
....I even kept one of his quotes that in my mind could be construed as demonic and I will share it if you desire. The only thing that SteveR considers to be theological truth is the untruth that he puts out there. My only fear is that because he names the name of Christ that he will lead others away....

I have found in my years as a Christian that the hardest people to win are those who think they are Christians already. In his case we have a double whammy; not only that he thinks himself a Christian, and a superior one at that; but also that he thinks theologically he knows more than anyone else here.

pennelope wrote:
however you do not have the authority on this website to run them off.

pennelope wrote:
....and neglect to say that those spiritual deceptions are also in the form of the "scientific" new age movement which is played out daily in the news and which needs a dialogue which is neglected.
as well as other idols that play out in so many ways.
sometimes letting them speak is the best way to show off their philosophy.

pennelope wrote:
do you assume that others on here do not have the discernment..?

pennelope wrote:
..for instance, I say that many churches are preparing their people to worship state, and daily we have people posting the Caesar/romans 13 links...

SteveR wrote:
....& trust what I say, they are BLESSED...

I established your eternal place....

Dolores wrote:
....David Wilkerson, "The Vision"..1972. I agree. You cannot help someone see their sin by condoning it. This was a true man of God, who wasn't afraid to speak out against sin.

Men will prefer false doctrines and new ideas rather than the truth of God's Holy Word. They will crowd around teachers who will give "new thoughts and revelations." Men and women will turn to the prophecies and teachings of men rather than giving heed to the doctrines of truth. They will give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

We face an hour of gospel extremes, wherein seeking men who have itching ears will follow after ministers who appear as "angels of light," but who are in reality preaching and teaching heresy. The new doctrines will use the name of Jesus freely...

Remember Dopey's God is doing a new thing, blah blah..

Frank wrote:
...rememeber SteveR also believes that when the RCC uses the name of Christ, then they are talking about the Christ that saved you and I. Their Christ turned His church over to the pope and his councils and He has to be re-sacrificed on an ongoing basis. .....

Dopey wrote:
In my humble opinion Troll Spotter and John UK are the blindest "Christians" on this site though it is undoubtedly true they know a lot about the Bible.

Dopey wrote:
I also know a lot about the Bible ....

Dopey wrote:
I look forward to illustrating the blindness of the two I referred to world wide....,,

Mike wrote:
So if she has used phraseology I understand, it wouldn't then be proper to imagine it into something other than what it says. Love letters are not usually written in secret code.

1 Peter 1

"9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into."

SteveR wrote:
While I dont need to seek out the Hebrew and Greek, I do because I LOVE GOD. The BIBLE is a special message to me, a sacred LOVE LETTER, and I want to know the meaning of every word, every pause, every event, every jot.

The funniest thing ever to watch this guy trying to be pious!

Mike NY

I believe Nicodemus and the Jews had the same dilemma as you.

John 3.12

"If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?"