John UK wrote: I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with mine own eyes. [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-uwJSV_8pQ]]]Benny Hinn's Wife[/URL] What IS that????? An evil spirit????? I'm right glad I don't twitch when I'm giving out tracts.
John UK wrote: Very encouraging video, Bro Michael.
John, Always good to correspond with you, my beloved Brother in Wales
I like "Printed Missionaries!"
My last post was part of a tract my Church has begun to pass out on the streets, this year .... even being taken by a woman going into our local abortion clinic, to read while she sat with her friend
Anyway this tracts continues ...
â€śFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.â€ť John 3:16 is reality, and Jesus proves this reality, because imaginary gods do not make and fulfill prophecy, work miracles even their enemies acknowledge are real, do not die on a real cross, outside of the walls of a real city, on a real day in history witnessed by real people, and rise from the dead and leave an empty tomb, despite real guards three days later just like they said they would. Know this: Eternal Life is not merely knowing some wonderful things and stories about this Jesus; But knowing HIM who is the Son of the Living God, .....
and there is more
Wishing everyone a "Merry Christmas" that points us to knowing/loving the Crucified for us, buried and RISEN!!! Son of the Living God
As Wonderful As Christmas is â€¦ And make no mistake about it, the Birth of this child supernaturally conceived in the womb of a young Jewish virgin is immeasurably wonderful, that in the weakness of a baby GOD had come to earth to be our Savior, even as it is written: 8 And in the same region there were shepherds out in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And an angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were filled with great fear. 10 And the angel said to them, â€śFear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:8-11 Yet this awesome stunning reality all too often gets buried in all the traditions, celebrations and gift giving men heap upon themselves for December 25th. So, as wonderful as Christmas is, please consider It is Easter! not Christmas that is the focal point of Christianity; QUESTION: Is Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God? Did He die for our sins on the Cross? Is He risen again from the dead? Will He ... come again in great power and authority to judge the living and the dead, punish the wicked and reward the righteous? YES!
John UK wrote: Brother Michael, Thank you for your thoughts on the other thread. The last time I posted there, I said I would bow out of that thread (out of concern for SA) and Kev seconded it, so I am keeping to my word.
Brother John UK You are right! Thanks for the admonition I will take it to heart
Brother John UK Sola Scriptura Man Interesting choice of words and the Biblical Narrative is telling; and the .............. verbal exploits by some
Elijah is falsely accused by Ahab the real "troubler of Israel with his wife Jezebel of being the troubler of Israel; and God wasn't just using Elijah to shut up the heavens where there was no rain (God's approval on Israel in their hateful idolaterous state but to bring the truth into Israel (with repentance and a fresh outpouring of much needed rain) who had been denying the horrid reality of their sin going along with Ahab and wicked Jezebel; if anything Ahab and Jezebel would have loved to shut this genuine saint of God up permanently
Here is a verse that applies: "Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things." Romans 2:1
Interesting, they practice the very same things they accuse others of, interesting indeed.
Maybe they should read: "Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?" Romans 2:4
Dear Bonny from Scottland, I plead with you be honest with us and especially with yourself, as it seems you hold more to the teaching of men like Pink who in my humble observation preach God hates everyone but the elect (or as another poster commented, the Elite) which I take to be only "Calvinists"
So, if you genuinely embrace teaching of Spurgeon let us indeed see that in treating others as Spurgeon did; but if you bow more to the teachings of those in the camp of Pink please do not bear false deceptive witness and only pretend you embrace the teachings of Spurgeon
Dear Scottish lady, I fear that it is you, not the imperfect John UK Sola Scriptura man is the one embracing a twisted loveless towards sinner Gospel that strips sinners of God given hope to be saved
Ignominious Emirakan wrote: Lester Roloff, 1965 - â€śRepentance is a godly sorrow for sin. Repentance is a forsaking of sin. Real repentance is putting your trust in Jesus Christ so you will not live like that anymore. Repentance is permanent. It is a lifelong and an eternity-long experience. You will never love the devil again once you repent. You will never flirt with the devil as the habit of your life again once you get saved. You will never be happy living in sin; it will never satisfy; and the husks of the world will never fill your longing and hungering in your soul. Repentance is something a lot bigger than a lot of people think. It is absolutely essential if you go to heavenâ€ť (Repent or Perish, 1965).
Highland Park Baptist Church c. 1965 - â€śHere are some things the sinner must do to be saved. He must want to be saved (Isa. 1:18-19). He must be willing for God to save him (Rev 22:18). He must acknowledge himself a sinner (Ps. 51:3; Lu. 15:17). He must repent - turn his back on sin and turn to God (Acts 20:21; Lu. 13:2). He must believe on Christ and His finished work of Redemption (Act 16:31; Joh. 1:12; Ro. 10:10; Joh. 3:16)â€ť (Handbook ...
IE John UK is right! Good post/encouragement; No, not in the least decisionsim
Bonny wrote: To preach indiscriminately does not mean that we have the right to tell anyone that God loves them in particular or died for them in particular.
Dear Bonnie I know at the moment you are corresponding with John UK Sola Scriptura man; I think I also could safely say, you are a bit prejudice against non-Calvinists and have a difficult time listening to (in my words here) just about anything they say.
So, please do listen to your own words .... Are you hearing yourself "preaching a gospel" of Jesus may or may not love you and expect people to put any kind of saving trust in "this Jesus you are preaching" who might not love them in the least? And this is good news to sinners who desperately need forgiveness and reconciliation with God?
Have you heard yourself argue against John's Biblical position, by the way a position much more inline with Spurgeon's preaching;
Yes! the Sacrifice of Jesus is available to whosoever believes because it is truth for God so loved the world, the whole world not just the elect world ... otherwise it could not be offered to whosoever, could it
And Yet! It will only be effective to those who believe the Truth. Posted before reading John's reply
John UK wrote: So let's have no more of these false accusations, please. It does your argument no good, and causes you to break the commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness".
Brother John, Several posts back I asked, 'Why are we even having these discussions?' Probably for a lot of reasons; probably one of the worst is Satan is out to spread discord/strife among brothers (see Proverbs 6 and how the LORD hates this and how it is an abomination to Him) and one of his most heinous weapons in this evil work is ..... religion.
For what it might be worth, and IMHO here Religion: proof texts the Bible Faith: believes the Bible
Religion bears flesh/carnal/ungodly fruit and shuts up the Kingdom of Heaven from men Faith bears the fruit of the Spirit, the first listed is Love, the Love of God for/towards everyone Faith preaches Jesus Christ, who loves us, died and rose for us Faith preaches believe in Him, a real living Being
Religion talks about Him but reduces Him to some kind of "thing" and preaches its "beliefs" and often despises people of genuine Biblical God Loving Faith
Religion can often be cunningly antinomian Faith shows its love for Jesus in obeying Him and seeking to obey Him, of sanctifying Him as Lord
Another Michael wrote: God willing, to be concluded in next post
7. And when He does, REJOICE, follow Him in Believerâ€™s Baptism, and unashamedly belong to Jesus. PRAY! Read the Bible every day, be saturated in and with His words, and do what He tells you. Pour out your life to Him in your praying and drink in His pouring out of His life, His Salvation to you in His Answers and Presence in your life. And make it a priority in the new life He has given you to go and tell others the Truth about Him so they can believe and be saved too. For it is the will of God that the Gospel of His Kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come. Psalm 64:10, Matthew 28:18-20, Mark 16:14-20, Revelation 22:17; Romans 10:13-15; Matthew 24:14
Honestly these are substantial claims that will radically affect your life and your relationships with other people, and what matters are they True or Not. Is God really more important than anything or anyone else? Be encouraged you can personally know Him. Please honestly investigate and find out the Truth for yourself. It will be so worth it! Amen.
Another Michael wrote: God willing, to be continued ...
5. And being made perfect (through His suffering, death and resurrection), He who will come again in Power and Great Glory to judge and make right all things, Jesus Christ became the author of eternal salvation for all those who obey Him, calling men to have a radical change in loyalty and desires, to no longer live for themselves or anything or anyone else, but for Him who died and rose again for us. Hebrews 5:9; 2 Corinthians 5:14,15 6. So, Repent and Believe, trust everything written about Jesus Christ in the Bible is Truth, because it is. Pray! Seek God with everything within you knowing Jesus Christ died for your sins on the Cross and rose again from the dead for you personally, until Jesus either saves you and you know it or you die. Isaiah 53:1-12; Romans 10:6-13 7. And when He does, REJOICE, follow Him in Believerâ€™s Baptism, and unashamedly belong to Jesus. ...........
Another Michael wrote: God willing, to be continued
2. All of us despite our best intentions are guilty of sinning against God and of consciously rejecting the God of the Bible, and not only is sin destroying us, our children and our nation; the Only True and Living God owes us nothing by His Law, His 10 Commandments, His Word, and His Holy Character but the judgment of hell to punish us for our sins. Romans 3:10-23, 6:23 3. But God does not want any to perish, He says so, but for all to come to repentance, that is to a fresh obedience to all the word of God, not to just the parts we like, but to a genuine reconciliation with God, and into the unimaginable love He proves He has for us, in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. 2 Peter 3:1-10; 1 Timothy 2:1-7; Romans 5:8 4. For all of us a Savior of Immeasurable Worth has been born, Godâ€™s own Son has been given. â€śFor God so loved the world, that He gave His Only Begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God, did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.â€ť John 1:1-34; John 3:16,17
John UK wrote: We have to bear these things in mind when out witnessing.
Yes! Romans 10:11-15 is foundational in an understanding of fulfilling the Great Commission:
This is will have to be in parts But the following is taken from a tract my church uses in street evangelism; beginning:
Knowing: God has spoken, and the Bible alone is His Holy Written Word 2 Peter 1:16-21
Knowing: In the Beginning God created the heavens and the earth, He owns and is sovereign over everything, all living things, and every living creature. Genesis 1:1; John 1:1-5; Psalm 24:1
A Telling of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
1. It is the will of God, to be GOD as GOD in every part our lives, not just â€śchurchâ€ť on Sunday morning. That our hearts would be open to Him and that He would share in our lives with us and that He would fill our lives with His life; God as God not just in the best of times when everything is good but also in the very worst of times and circumstances as well.
John UK wrote: I was just answering Christopher's question, bro. Are you going to have a go at it?
John UK First different presentation may indeed give different flavors of converts Prosperity False Gospel - I am coming to get rich others - to fix the problems in my life others come - because I have to; I've been forced to, only to save one's skin from hell others - to make me better than other people others - to be saved from sin & now willing because I love Him to live for Him who loved me first when I was a sinner and couldn't really love the person I was
Kind of like the motive the sinful woman must have had who wept over Jesus' feet, washed them with her tears and dried them with her hair
John UK Sola Scriptura Man Honestly, why are we into this discussion
Whose approval do we need over our theology? Man's or God's
It seems to me at this time, if we are more concerned with God's approval, He not our "debate opponents" will be the focus of our faith, our love, our living and we will tell people about Him
As a comment here, I don't particulary like Kev (Kev you probably already knew you aren't one of my fondest friends) but if he was actually preaching out on the street what was posted 12/3/17 8:14 PM I won't object and I would be thankful for anyone who was born again through God using his labors. I would still disagree with him on his spin on the Sabbath; but then it is coming to know Jesus, not keep the Sabbath or not, that is the issue in Salvation, is it not; and God is quite capable in His Almighty Sovereignty of dealing with each of us as individuals whereby we His children can love Him & others from a pure heart in a good conscience and in a sincere faith
And taking Bonny's comment none of us has to play Holy Spirit and Lord over another's conscience and faith; and free us to encourage those truly born again to continue in the faith once for all delivered
Bonny wrote: Only the new birth will suffice. No amount of correct doctrine saved a single soul. The point I was making is that we should not assume the role that belongs solely to the Holy Spirit - viz. giving assurance to anyone.
Bonny, I hope you have watched the brief clip of Paris Reidhead, whose "10 Shekels and a Shirt" is one of SermonAudio's Must Hear Starters; or you may not understand my comment here:
Listed among things the LORD hates and that are an abomination to Him in Proverbs 6 is: "and one who sows discord among brothers."
Would you consider Paris Reidhead, a non-Calvinist a brother? Would you value him and his ministry? Basically do non-Calvinists have any place in your life as brothers and sisters, do you love them, would you lay down your life for them?
Please don't get angry but I read so much about "The Arminians" as if they are at best some kind of diseased inferior Christians, who must be converted to Calvin at all costs; and if they don't Calvinists need to drive them away.
Bonny, does not Scripture tell us to judge not? Would this include labeling someone wrongly? Would it not be far more important to discern/know someone by their fruits (love maybe) if they know Jesus or not?
Bonny wrote: To give false assurance to anyone is the cruelest thing that anyone can do.
Dear Bonny I agree with your comment And I am asking please don't get angry with me for asking you"
Would it be cruel to give someone a false assurance of salvation because they intellectually believe and are zealous for 5 Point T.U.L.I.P. Calvinism but have no testimony of God's sovereign dealings with them to bring them to repentance and faith and give no profession of having personal faith in Jesus Christ, just in things about Him?
Here is a brief 8 minute clip "Come and He Will Set You Free" by a non-Calvinist taken from a sermon titled: So Great Salvation
What do you think of it? Does it meet your approval? or not? Would you think it is worth sharing with others?