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Dr. Tim wrote:
No, John, I don’t. How can sin make man innocent? I’m afraid you lost me on that one.
What a pity that some are so foolish that they cannot understand how God can offer salvation to anyone willing to receive it (by grace through faith) without compromising His sovereignty in the least. How quickly we forget that all of us sheep used to be dogs.
Doc, this may help bro:

1. "With his stripes we are healed". By the blood of Christ we are forgiven all of our sins. We are not 'healed' of our sins; that would imply we were innocent and our sin was as a result of a condition. Many are claiming this today, that we are not guilty but merely 'sick'.

But scripture says we are healed through Calvary. Therefore there is healing for the body in the atonement, as well as forgiveness of sins.

2. It is a great shame that the hyper-Calvinist cannot ever say to a sinner that God loves them and sent his Son to die for them. Evangelists meet a great number of people, and there is no doubt statistically that God loves some and gave his Son for them, but the hyper cannot ever convey that to them, in case they are not elect. Pathetic.

I have to get dinner now, but I may look in again later.


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Luke 18:9-14 KJV
(9)  And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
(10)  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
(11)  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
(12)  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
(13)  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
(14)  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Luke 23:42 KJV
(42)  And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

The publican and the thief, both saved after saying a "sinner's prayer".

If you seriously want to be a hyper-Calvinist, don't seek the Lord while he may be found, and don't call upon him while he is near; don't depart from your sins, don't approach unto God. That ought to do it.


News Item8/5/2020 11:31 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
How have you changed, John
The real shame is to have views contrary to Scripture, not to men.
Regards
Changed, sister? If you ask some of the older contributors on the forum here, going back 15 years or more, they will tell you I have held the 1689 Baptist Confession since I first understood it after my conversion in 1979. That makes it about 40 years.

Disclaimer. This does not mean I accept every jot and tittle of the document. There are certain things I am undecided on, or am experimenting with. But on many subjects, such as the ordinances of baptism and the Lord's Supper, I am happy to say that I believe they got it spot on.

Have you ever read the 1689 Baptist Confession? Or is that out of your experience?


News Item8/5/2020 10:18 AM
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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
John it is not so much a matter of not pondering in the past as it is taking time to write it out so it will communicate what I am trying to say in a concise manner this forum dictates.
I know what you're saying brother. No worries then, take as much time as you need, and I look forward to reading your conciseness.

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Dr. Tim wrote:
But John, I thought the reason Jesus hung for so many hours on the cross was so He’d have time to instruct that thief on (drumroll, eerie organ music) The Doctrines Of Sovereign Grace. Do you mean to tell me that man just asked Jesus for salvation and got it? Kinda sounds like Romans 10:13 to me: “For WHOSOEVER [Yippee! Hot diggety dog! Glory hallelujah!] shall call upon the name of the Lord SHALL be saved.”
Tim, can I ask you something? Do you believe that sin is an illness in man that makes him innocent and needs healing. If no, check out the following text and keep to the literal interpretation instead of spiritualising it. Then tell me what you think it is saying. Thank you bro.

Isaiah 53:4-5 KJV
(4)  Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
(5)  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.


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B. McCausland wrote:
John, the Lord's supper is the type of the future supper of the Lamb when all the fruits of the redemptive work will be enjoyed in full.
No, we do not eat the lamb at the Lord's supper. We do remember his attonning death.
I Corinthians 15, which gives the theological interpretation of it, does not talk about the Lord's supper in that light.
That's okay sister. You have a Bible and the ability to read it; therefore you are responsible for what you believe from it.

It's a shame that your beliefs counter those of the Westminster worthies and the over 100 pastors of the Strict Baptists, but Hey Ho, there is yet time to change. We should always be growing and learning, and I have only just come into this myself over the last few weeks, so I can't complain. No-one ought change overnight. These things require a whole deal of thought and prayer and study of scripture.


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Wayfarer pilgrim wrote:
I do know that the opening of the Billy Graham museum, Billy Graham was asked what he thought of the museum and he said, “ there’s just too much “ Billy “ and no near as much as to who is Jesus “. At the core, many people will look at Billy Graham and think his approach was to present a palpable Jesus. But, honestly, he was an evangelist for the 20 th century. And at the end of the war, America was relishing their new found faith in being an American. Billy Graham presented a simpler time and a very primitive understanding of salvation. His approach really was no different than what was offered in practically every country Southern Baptist church of the 1940’s. He broadened that message to everyone, and at the core was a principaled evangelical gospel message. But by including Catholics, Lutherans, and Episcopalians- that’s where your compromising a gospel for whatever is interpreted by the hearers. One thing I do know- a catholic priest did not want to have his little catholic followers listen to a Billy Graham on television- too many questions and after awhile- folks stop coming to mass. Billy Graham was disruptive , wherever he went.
Thanks WP for that info.

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Dr. Tim wrote:
EVERY. ONE. THAT. BELIEVETH.
Word of God. Ain’t it wonderful?
It is wonderful, brother!

You know who needed it to be simple, because he had so little time left on the earth? One of those thieves who were being crucified either side of Christ. At the instant he said, "Lord,..." he was saved, and forgiven for all his sins. Try fitting that into a theological straight jacket.


News Item8/5/2020 9:23 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
You are deviating from the topic by creating rabbit trails.
Surely, the type and the reality it points to, do not compare, but the Lord's supper is still a type or emblem of the real thing.
Nevertheless, the witness of the Spirit is real by its fruit experienced when in obedience to the seal, but to figure out mystical experiences, which in truth come linked to the 'means of grace' concept, it sounds spurious.
Sister, I sincerely do not know what you mean by creating a rabbit trail. I am trying to answer your questions in all honesty and to the point.

"Surely, the type and the reality it points to, do not compare, but the Lord's supper is still a type or emblem of the real thing."

Sister, the type and reality is a slain lamb/Lamb. The Hebrews ate the lamb, and we eat the Lamb by fulfilment. If you read paragraph 7 you will see it is not physical but spiritual.

"but to figure out mystical experiences, which in truth come linked to the 'means of grace' concept, it sounds spurious."

Who said anything about a mystical experience? Or even an experience at all?

Are we getting anywhere? Please say yes.


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B. McCausland wrote:
John, you are on a rabbit trail.
Where are the proofs for your selection on the Lord's supper?
Sister, I do not understand either the first or the second sentence. Please can you rephrase or ask in a different way? Thank you.

News Item8/5/2020 8:21 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
John, as a reminder to all, men are to teach from Scriptures, not to make compendiums of 'infallible' doctrinal statements to be in place of the script.
Any chance of answering to my question?
Do you reckon that the Israelites eating the passover had a mystical awareness, or a grateful remembrance of true facts in their past history ?
Sister B, the 1689 Baptist Confession is a compendium of scriptural quotations, formed into readable paragraphs similar to the WCF. Let me give you an example from mine own mind.

The person of Jesus Christ: He is

1. The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. [proof text John 1:29]

2. etc.

When Baptist ministers preach, they usually take a text, say John 1:29, and expound it using their own words and other parts of scripture. I am not one of those who believes only the Bible should be read out in church without commentary.

As for your question, no, no mystical experience, purely remembrance. This is because the passover was a type/shadow of the real thing, Christ our passover being slain for us. Therefore we can expect much more in the fulfilment than in the shadow. And I believe scripture teaches that. eg. 1 Corinthians 10:16.


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Dolores wrote:
Hi JohnUk, I agree because to me its pretty close to what Paul encountered at Corinth so many idols and one unknown to cover all bases. Billy Graham being the humble man he was would not have wanted a statue put up to honor him. He always pointed to Christ and Christ alone as the way to salvation.
Hi Dolores, and good to hear from you and renew fellowship. Yes, I agree. He was a very humble man, and his preaching always left you thinking of Jesus. I personally believe that he would be very upset over the building of a statue representing him.
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Greetings, thank you.

1. Quite so.
2. I will agree to disagree.


News Item8/5/2020 7:44 AM
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B. McCausland wrote:
John, confessions are not inspired documents, neither their writers were sinless, perfect or infallible, but subceptive to bagages.
Ps. No need to go ad hominem please.
Sister, no ad hominem from me, I assure you, merely observing the scriptural practice and seeking to be conformed to the will of God.

As to the first part of your comment, sure, no problem. I don't have truck with Protestant Popes, whether they be men or women. We are all of us subject to frailty of thought, misinterpretations of scripture, endless eschatological debate, and so on.

But it is a plain fact of scripture, which all must agree on, that God has ordained men to teach the word of God to a flock, whether or not they have all their i's dotted and t's crossed. This is the blueprint, and those who are likened to the gainsaying of Korah, who refused submission to Moses, may have to pay a price for their rebellion, for God will have purity in the camp. This is why some will not attend a church fellowship, they will never live in submission to anyone. Maybe the devil got them into that state, but it is a sad case, and makes for unfruitfulness in the kingdom of God.


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B. McCausland wrote:
Man made confessions can end up as a bunch of presumptions, well meant intentions, some wrong preconceptions, along with some spiritual truth mingled with assumptions. All these pack and knit together makes it hard to dissect them apart especially when deriving from a long-lived religious tradition.
Sister, the problem you have here, is that these men who compiled the confession, were appointed and anointed by God, to oversee the flock of God particularly purchased by the blood of Christ, and everything in the confession was taught to societies of Christians by the will of God, according to biblical precedent.

Whereas if you, or any other individual, says that you have the truth in your own mind, and that if the truth you hold to is at variance with the 1689 confession, it is the 1689 confession which must bow down to you, and accept your verdict, even though you have no authority from God to make such a declaration, and especially so, being a woman with no authority to teach men, in accordance with scripture.

I'm just being open and honest here, and I hope you can see how I view the situation. And I hope I get all things from scripture, as I'm sure the Baptist pastors did.


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B. McCausland wrote:
John,

In this case the eating of his flesh and blood represents our union with Christ (identification with him) and of being part of him.

Sister, I've no doubt but that there will be those who agree with that sort of thing, but to me it seems a stretch of the imagination.

I agree that we can discount the magic show which the priests of the RCC perform at the mass (so-called).

However, I am happy to accept the 1689 Confession's verdict on the matter, which was Spurgeon's own confession, and which he taught in the Metropolitan Tabernacle in London.

Here is Chapter 30 of the 1689 Baptist Confession, with the negatives taken out for clarity.

Paragraph 7. Worthy receivers, outwardly partaking of the visible elements in this ordinance, do then also inwardly by faith, spiritually receive, and feed upon Christ crucified, and all the benefits of his death; the body and blood of Christ being spiritually present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves are to their outward senses.

Thusly, there is far more to communion than a mere remembrance; here is an active participation owing to the presence of Christ, present that is, to those who are believing.


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I don't like to see statues of men. There are no statues of men in heaven, and I don't believe we should have them here on earth.

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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Still pondering what I have written.
Brother US, ponder away as you will, it is no problem. I am very much looking forward to reading your completed essay.

I will just say that as you are pondering so long on this, it is surely a sign that you have not given it much thought in the past. Well bro, it is no different to myself, as these things are very recent in mine own thinking.

There is far more to communion than most fellow believers realise, and it may be time to get out the creeds and confessions of our particular church and see what our founders thought about it.

Clearly, the independent and separatist Baptist pastors of 1689 collectively agreed on a most informative and heartwarming exposition of what the communion was all about. And at last I now see that the communion table must be a closed table, even though that produces logistical difficulties. In those days the Baptists were called Strict and Particular Baptists; they held a strict (closed) table and a particular view of the atonement (that Christ died particularly for those chosen by the Father).


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Frank wrote:
Pilgrim! I rarely go so far as say someone isn't saved. But as you know I will do that if I am convicted to say so. But, if anyone could find fault with your testimony I would say they are seriously confused or not saved. It is that clear.
Perhaps not clear enough to make it a kind of litmus test, but I would not fellowship with anyone who questions it.
P.S.
I truly don't even remember the wording the fellow used when I was saved, but mine was instantaneous.
Amen brother and fellow pilgrim. Sure, God loves you and sent his Son to die for you, and all your sins are paid for in full.

He predestinated you; he called you; he justified you, and will one day glorify you. And all the antics of the evil one cannot change these things. Demons can deny the work of grace in you, but God's work is finished and secure. And if God is for you, who can be against you - without incurring the wrath of God.

Romans 8:30-31 KJV
(30)  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
(31)  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?


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B. McCausland wrote:
Surely,
It is fascinating to see the Hypercalvinist and the Arminian position come to terms to admit to the two wings Scriptures hold about converting truth.
The sad thing is that usually passages quoted are butchered in order to support a particular take.
E.g. the Greek word for 'whosoever' (G3956) used in John 6:37 is the same used in John 3:16, which means 'all that' ... say believe, come, looks or whatever.
Interesting point, Sister B. Thank you. Maybe that is why some preachers use the Good News Bible.

John 6:37 GNB
(37)  Everyone whom my Father gives me will come to me. I will never turn away anyone who comes to me,

John 3:16 GNB
(16)  For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.


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Frank wrote:
Your thoughts on how election and grace work are the same as mine. Election is true, and any repentant sinner that comes to Christ will be saved. They are both one and the same. If you are elect, you will come and if you come you are the elect. The elect will be given knowledge of Christ and what His atonement means and they will come. We just have no way of knowing who those are.
"Everything" is by God's grace!
Amen and Amen, fellow pilgrim, and what a wonder it is, that God should so choose me as to ensure that instead of allowing me to self-destruct, he rather brought me to Christ, to my knees, believing on the gospel and seeking his grace and mercy, the forgiveness of sins, and crying out, "God be merciful to me, a sinner," as Jesus illustrated in the Bible, turning from sin to serve the true and living God, and asking Jesus into my heart (whatever that meant), and having been born again by the will of God and by his grace, I went running and leaping and praising God, because after five days of seeking him I was given full assurance of faith, being filled with the Spirit, and was able to cry out, "Abba, Father," having been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ.
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