Where the hyper-calvinist have problems with is that the gospel compels the sinner to come to Christ. They consider any action on the part of a sinner as works salvation even calling upon the name of the Lord.

Not only David Silversides but Sinclair Ferguson has a good message on the free offer of the gospel.

"I know that only the elect will, but neither I nor the listeners Know who is elect or not."

I was not asking how the men you listed present the gospel, but how do you and Seaton present the gospel to the lost.

One of the mysteries that puzzles me is how do people like Seaton present the gospel of God's saving grace to those who are lost. Afterall, it was for them who Christ came to seek and to save. Can they honestly tell them that if they repent and believe the gospel they are saved? Can they honestly tell them that Christ took their place and shed his blood for their sins as the perfect sacrifice and by faith they can receive the free gift of salvation by believing on his name?

Since they know not who the elect are, do they tell them to pray that God would give them the gift of faith to believe knowing full well in their minds that if they aren't elect, God won't grant it to them anyway?

Persevere means: to persist in a state, enterprise, or undertaking in spite of counterinfluences, opposition, or discouragement.

Merriam-Webster Dictionary

PERSEVE'RE, v.i. L.persevero. The last component part of this word, severo,must be the same as in assevero, with the radical sense of set, fixed or continued. So persist is formed with per and sisto, to stand. Constant and continue have a like primary sense. So we say, to hold on.

To persist in any business or enterprise undertaken; to pursue steadily any design or course commenced; not to give over or abandon what is undertaken; applied alike to good and evil.

Thrice happy, if they know

Their happiness, and persevere upright!

To persevere in any evil course, makes you unhappy in this life.

Webster 1828 Dictionary

Seaton wrote:
Eph 2:1 "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins"
"Quickened" here means made alive.
"Dead" here does not mean half alive.

So what you are basically saying is that a hellboind sinner, who is lost, dead in tresspasses and sin, walking in opposition and rebellion to God can somehow of his own power and volition turn himself aroung and seek after God without the intervention of the Father seeking after him and without the Holy Spirit's intervention to draw him to Christ.

"Sorry - I Don't accept that there is a third way."

Actually there is, it is the apostolic doctrines which preceeded both Calvin and Arminius. Theology wasn't invented by neither of these two men, it has always been in existence from the mouth of God to the hands of the writers of Scripture. Neither Calvin nor Arminius can claim infalibility in their writings because their systematic theology was not God breathed on them. They were mere men and students of scriptures like you and I.

The Holy Spirit is not the author of confusion, theologians are on the other hand.

Anyway, was the theology of the RCC the ONLY theology taught prior to Calvin or Arminius. I say NOT.

"TULIP is actually quite a good arbiter in doctrine. The basic point being whether God is in complete control of the move from unsaved to saved.
AND whether man is Totaly Depraved thus can have zero input into the realm of salvation, without divine assistance."

You don't realize how prideful and conceited your comments are. It is only by the grace of God that He has chosen us unto salvation. We did not deserve His love and mercy whereby we were redeemed by the blood of His only begotten Son. If it were not for God's unmerited favor, we would all be hellbound sinners and many of us would be leading the pack.

Take note of the phrase "for our lamps are gone out." Wouldn't this imply that the lamps were previously lit, and thus were previously filled with oil, but the oil was used up and the lamps went dry.

Question 2: Is a gift (A) something you have to work for or (B) something you freely receice

I await your response, then I'll proceed to answer the rest concerning repentance. These first two are imperitive before going any further.

Question 1: Is salvation/eternal life (A) a gift or (B) a reward

Question 2: Is a gift (A) something you have to work for or (B) something you freely receice

(John 10:25-30)

25. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.

26. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28. And I give [διδωμι] (verb - Present, Active, Indicative) unto them eternal [αιωνιον] (Adjective - accusative case meaning perpetual, everlasting, forever) life; and they shall never [ου μη] (Conjunction meaning absolutely will not) perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

30. I and my Father are one.

Why did Jesus suffer the agony of the crucifixion and the death on the cross?

Was it so you can work for your own salvation. You still cannot answer the question, if salvation and eternal life is a gift, then why must you treat is as a reward for good behavior. If you must earn it, then it is no longer a gift, but wages.

I am sorry Abigail, but your camp is following the Romanist. We do earn crowns to cast at the feet of Jesus after we are saved. We can't earn salvation because all of your works will be considered putrid leporsy filled filthy rags before the God of heaven if that is what wou are basing your salvation on to get you to heaven and not the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

You still want to get the glory for yourself for your salvation and give none to Christ, who died on the cross for our sins.

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