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8/26/13 10:24 AM |
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Unprofitable Servant wrote: You have YET to give a verse You have yet to provide one jot or tittle which commands or even suggests the Christian is to discard the Book of Psalms which God wrote for a purpose - THE PURPOSE WAS THE PRAISE OF GOD.Why do you discard the Praise of God to replace it for the words of sinners? Why do you insist that the believers should ditch the Word of God in favour of the words of sinners? Why do you cast away God's Psalms of praise to sing from other books when there is no command or authority to do so? Why do you reject the work of God to replace it with the work of man. Are you a devout Arminian? A DIY salvationist? Why do you insist that believers are to use Uninspired hymns in replacement of the inspired and ordained praise of God. Why do you attack Scriptures like this. Why do you attack God? What is your true purpose in rejecting God and His Bible in this way? Why must you add to Scripture in contradiction to the command of God? Why do you take away the psalms from Scripture in contradiction to the command of God? Why do you disobey the Bible? Why do you disobey Christ? Rev 22:19 if any man shall take away ... God shall take away his part out of the book of life |
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8/25/13 5:34 PM |
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Unprofitable Servant wrote: "Therefore whether you eat or drink or WHATSOEVER you do, do all to the glory of God."(I Corinthians 10:31) Your turn God only wrote ONE praise book.It seems very simple to me that God wrote the Book I as a believer obey God. God wrote other books in the Bible. But there is NO command of God to sing them. Psalm 95:2 Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise unto him with psalms. Psalm 105:2 Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him: talk ye of all his wondrous works. Amen. Psalm 143:7 HEAR ME speedily, O LORD: my spirit faileth: hide not thy face from me, lest I be like unto them that go down into the pit. 8 CAUSE ME to hear thy lovingkindness in the morning; for in thee do I trust: cause me to know the way wherein I should walk; for I lift up my soul unto thee. 9 DELIVER ME, O LORD, from mine enemies: I flee unto thee to hide me. 10 Teach me to do thy will; for thou art my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness. 11 QUICKEN ME, O LORD, for thy name's sake: for thy righteousness' sake bring my soul out of trouble. 12 And of thy mercy CUT OFF mine enemies, and destroy all them that afflict my soul: for I am thy servant. Amen. |
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8/23/13 3:00 PM |
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John UK wrote: 1. it's just blah blah time 2. whatever tune? 3. you consider God's word insufficient or ill-measured, that you have to wholesale metricate it 1. More insults again John. Christians don't do that. May the Lord forgive you.2. Precentor. 3. The psalms, hymns and spiritual songs which are the book of Psalms, were first written by versification in Hebrew. The change in versification came about by translation into other languages such as English. The metrical psalms we read in English today are making use of our language so that we can read them. _________ Unprofitable Servant wrote: You are saying that the only acceptable book for songs in an Old Testament book. But when it comes to instruments I could give you the whole theological discussion for that point Ups. But I am only allowed 1300 characters. So if you are really serious about this side of the debate then please see http://www.westminsterconfession.org/worship/instrumental-music-in-worship-commanded-or-not-commanded.php Excuse the written version - Hyperlink not working again. BTW I am serious about this. I'm not just being awkward. NOT using the psalms for the purpose God wrote them is a genuine quandary to me. |
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8/22/13 5:20 PM |
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John UK wrote: tunes "The conclusion to which we are driven is this: God has not commanded us to use musical instruments in New Testament worship. We have seen that God did not authorize (command) the use of musical instruments until the time of Moses (even if we consider the trumpets used in the tabernacle to be instruments of music). When they were authorized (commanded), they were clearly a part of the shadowy ceremonial system. And even in the Old Testament period, worship (except that which was performed by the priests and Levites at the temple in Jerusalem) was commonly offered without musical instruments. Worship in the ancient synagogue was always devoid of such. So was the worship of the early church. Never in the New Testament do we find mention of their use. What we do find is an abundance of teaching to the effect that the whole system of tabernacle and temple worship (shadowy and typical in nature) has been abolished. It follows, therefore, that the use of musical instruments is not authorized in the worship of the church today." (G.I.Williamson) |
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8/22/13 3:29 PM |
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John UK wrote: Or don't folks believe that God blesses Replacing Psalms with Hymns says: 1. Church prefers uninspired works. 2. Church rejects the inspired Psalms. 3. Church states need for human entertainment. 4. Church directs worship to creature rather than creator. Idolatry. 5. Church removes part of Scripture. 6. Church replaces God ordained praise for human works. 7. Church diminishes place of Bible by removing Word of God. 8. Church rejects the Work of God in worship. Blasphemy. 9. Church (a) takes away from Scripture, and (b) Adds to Scripture. (Rev 22:18.19) 10. Church dismisses "inspiration" as inconsequential. Blasphemy. 11. Church perceives sinners compositions as superior to God's. Blasphemy. 12. Church removes inspired Scripture intended for doctrine and supplants entertainment. Idolatry. 13. Church dishonors and disgraces ordained worship with human arrogance to provide human entertainment instead. Blasphemy. 14. Church does not praise God as HE ordains. 15. Church diminishes respect for God, Christ and the Holy Spirit. 16. Church provides society with excuse for disobedience of Scripture. 17. Church teaches parts of Bible may be ditched. 18. Church teaches Roman Catholic premise of "Traditions" acceptable. |
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8/20/13 4:00 PM |
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Michael Hranek wrote: AND you don't? You clearly don't know your history Michael. "Anselm. In particular, his doctrine of the Atonement as stated in the classic book Cur Deus Homo. You may be surprised that, with the exception of some faint echoes from certain church fathers, e.g. Clement, "Barnabas," "Epistle to Diognetus," Cyril of Jerusalem, Athanasius, and Augustine, there was no fully developed substitutionary theory of the Atonement until Anselm" (ritchies.net)________ "Dr. John Gill (1697-1771) Baptist, commenting on Eph 5:19: “By psalms are meant the Psalms of David, and others that compose the book that goes with that name; and by hymns we are to understand, not such as are made by good men, without the inspiration of the Spirit of God; since they are placed between psalms and spiritual songs, made by men inspired by the Holy Ghost … but these are only another name for the book of Psalms, the running title of which may as well be the book of Hymns, as it is rendered by Ainsworth and by spiritual songs are meant the same Psalms of David, Asaph etc. and the titles of many of them are songs … These three words answer to Mizmorim, Tehillim, and Shirim, the several titles of David’s Psalms” = Thinking Baptist? |
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8/20/13 2:44 PM |
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Lurker wrote: He was referring Nope wrong again Lurker. Where do you get them from?But the essential point in this debate is that you hymn singers are rejecting and replacing part of Scripture with human effort and output namely hymns. By doing this they are 'replacing' inspired praise the Psalms which God has ordained for His praise; - with human uninspired productions ie hymns. As for Paul's "Psalms Hymns and Songs" :- The study of the Hebrew descriptions in ancient copies includes in the list:- Hymns of Praise of God. Elegies. Didactic Psalms. Liturgical Songs. Pilgrim songs. These would have all had special times and circumstances during the Temple worship. Obviously the Book of Psalms has a history of worship relating to Temple liturgy and other events which would require study. ___________________ DJC49 wrote: "Amazing Grace" and "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" Yes human hymns like these are very entertaining for human consumption. Aren't they?Human entertainment has replaced God's praise/Psalms/Bible with human lyrics and melodies which are more appealing to humans. I guess the boring old Psalms God ordained for praise are inadequate to your taste and amusement DJC49? |
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8/20/13 9:41 AM |
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Unprofitable Servant wrote: 1. Ephesians 5:19 (KJV) Speaking to 2. I also, concur with Paul from Northern Ireland on why the hymn was dropped excellent post. 1. Paul writing this 2000 years ago clearly was not referring to the uninspired hymns which are used today written in the last couple of hundred years. Paul was in fact referring to the Book of Psalms contained in the Word of God which contains Psalms, Hymns and spiritual songs.2. Why don't you people read the article??? Quote from article:- ""People think that we've taken the wrath of God out of the hymnal," Bringle said. "That's not the case. It's all over the hymnal. The issue was the word 'satisfied.'"" So NO it isn't about "WRATH" - Remember all you "hymn singers" - Sing man's invented uninspired hymns and you are rejecting and replacing what God has ordained and included in the Bible for HIS praise. If you attend these Liberal and Arminian churches of today you will NOT hear the psalms used. They have been rejected like the rest of the Bible for mans religious inventions. It is the thin end of the wedge for eventual apostasy. Hymns and other forms of human entertainments are supplanted to replace genuine Biblical worship of the Lord. |
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2/25/12 3:48 PM |
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Jim Lincoln wrote: I never got to ask those folks who believe in using the Psalms only for church music--how do they praise, Jesus? While there are a few psalms that make a reference to Jesus, at least I think there is a good argument for that, there is none that mention Yeshua directly, if my memory serves? I would hope that you do the psalms in Hebrew, because no doubt they would sound much better than in Elizabethan English. God wrote the Book, Jim. Well at least the KJV. In the Book called the Bible is recorded by God Himself the praise Book of Psalms, He ordained for worship. If you use mans myriad versions then invariably you will reject the Book of Psalms written by God. Mans sing songs are entertainment for sinners and have grown worse in the Liberal churches today. Thus the seed planted ended up bringing the worship/praise of God into pop groups and other daft ideas. Thus why not use what God recorded and ordained. BTW Christ Jesus is what the whole OT/NT Bible, Counsel of God is all about. |
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2/18/12 4:09 PM |
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Jim Lincoln wrote: The psalms were not made for mindless repetition, and in truth, that is what almost all repetition turns into, just ask John Y about the Mass. To suggest that using the Scriptures which GOD wrote is quote "mindless repetition" - is unChristian, faithless and ignorant. God recorded HIS Psalms for HIS worship and Praise. You have blasphemed against God by implying that obeying the Word of God, indeed obeying God Himself, can be mindless for His followers. Obviously you also hold the works, words and music of man - to be above that of God's written and recorded worship Psalms. If you are truly Christian then you will repent before God. |
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2/18/12 12:45 PM |
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John Yurich USA wrote: What hymns do you consider to have false doctrines in the lyrics? Those which are not ordained and authorised by God himself for His praise and worship.Those ordained and authorised By God Himself are of course the Psalms recorded by God in Scripture, for His worship. The modern practice of music and lyrics which are used to REPLACE the Psalms, Praise Book of God, are directed at human entertainment and emotional reaction. Which other Books of the Bible are rejected and excluded from the churches as the Book of Psalms are? More importantly which other Books of the 'Word of God' are excluded and REPLACED by the works of man, in said churches? If none then what is the reason behind ditching the Book of Psalms? If not for human purposes such as entertaining the congregations - Whether God likes it or not!! It is interesting that both Liberal churches and churches who consider themselves evangelical - even orthodox, both commit this same act of.....??? |
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2/17/12 3:58 PM |
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Neil wrote: False: YOU are talking your hobby-horse of Exclusive Psalmody. I & John were not. Poor Neil; Whether you like it or not God DID record Praise. AND You modernist hymn singers are "removing" God's Word to entertain yourselves with the works of sinners. |
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