Remember Christian tradition. A Biblical statement, anyway. As St. Paul says "Hold the traditions which ye have been taught." Unfortunately we have more people fighting over traditions instead of preserving them--Mine is better than yours, yours is wrong...etc. etc. If they can build a case for their tradition from the Bible, I am not in the position to argue with them.
Surely a verse in Sola Scriptura justifies lighting candles, incense, etc. Yep! So why the squabble? Cuz some just don't agree. Such is life for now. I wonder how some will feel in heaven as described in Revelation--candles, incense, etc. Are you ready?
If God has his hand so much on the A/G and they claim pentecost and the "full gospel", where are the tongues of fire and ability to speak in the languages of the ethnic groups in their localities? Sunday after Sunday passes here and no news of these events in the A/G or other Pentecostal groups in my town.
John Yurich USA wrote: The statement "dunking someone toward salvation" is totally unscriptural because Baptism is totally superfluous to salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven and thus it is totally superfluous if infants are Baptized. Baptism is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus.
That's not what the Apostles and the Lord say about baptism.
Pastor in the article says "Spirit's in the water"? What? Inside or out, under or not, baby or grown up, does not matter. If it did matter, the Apostles would have said so, but evidently some people have more worry than the Holy Spirit does. Agree with Presby and with Luther.
Where are the tongues of fire and supernatural ability to converse with different ethnic groups in their localities? It never happens here on any given sunday among the pentecostal congregations. The Assemblies of God is getting more and more extrabiblical as time goes on, just like the whole charismatic movement. It doesn't matter to them much what the Bible says. If the result appears "good" or "God said it," it is "of God." Come out from among them while you have the chance.
From the article(and may this be a lesson to Pentecostals or those who sympathize with them): "On Thursday Neumann, who is 47 and studied in the past to be a Pentecostal minister, said he thought God would heal his daughter.
"If I go to the doctor, I am putting the doctor before God," he said. "I am not believing what he said he would do."
He also said he thought his daughter had had flu or a fever, and that he had not realised how ill she was."
God had the answer with the doctor, but this man(like many Pentecostals) are blinded by their self-righteous piety. I was raised Pente-charismatic-word/faith but have totally severed from it because of this kind of behavior among many other issues that characterize the people caught up in this frenzy.
John Yurich USA wrote: Obama and the president of the Mormon Cult should both be locked away in an asylum somewhere because they are both nuts.
I don't agree with Mormon doctrine, but to lock them up?!?! What's gotten into you, Mr. Yurich? I guess religious freedom is not something you care for...the Bible according to you and nothing else, lock all the others up. Is this what you are implying? Would you like to be locked up for what you believe? Just because it is not "correct" or according to your opinion is not justification to lock them up.
Ah, Biblicist, I'll sit here till my rationed time at the library is over. I suppose reason can be used to explain the Trinity....Father, Son, Holy Ghost...all are divine. Yes, true, the "only begotten" phrase is in the Scriptures(John 3:16) and the Nicene creed, so you've got a good point there. To me it means that Jesus is God's one and only son forever, but isn't "one and only" the other interpretation of the origninal language?
Hi Biblicist, no input on the Trinity. I think the Trinity is fine, but should not exclude other views. Like I said, I was simply asking you about Servetus and freedom of conscience, not to open a can of worms, but.........they are everywhere now! Lot's of arguing over the words of the Nicene creed. Maybe that is one reason I am being quiet...people contending for their interpretation of an extrabiblical document. That will go on for a long time. Think I'll opt out and enjoy the summer weather. Where are those sprinklers?
Biblicist wrote: What I have complained of is the elevation of reason above Scripture!
Good point, Biblicist. I agree here. Reason can prove God's existence, I believe(in the manner how the Apostle Paul and the psalmus use the beauty and logic of creation and the universe), but we should not put it above the Scriptural record. Have a good day.