Exodus 34:27-28

27 And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

28 And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon THE TABLES THE WORDS OF THE COVENANT, the TEN COMMANDMENTS.

Well there it is the Old Covenant is the Ten Commandments.

Hebrews 8:13

In that he saith, A NEW COVENANT, he hath made the FIRST OLD. Now that which decayeth and WAXETH OLD IS READY TO VANISH AWAY.

Hebrews 7:12

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a CHANGE ALSO OF THE LAW.

Isaiah 2:3

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for OUT OF ZION SHALL GO FORTH THE LAW, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

John UK wrote:
Okay Christopher.
I have an advantage in that shortly after my conversion, and not yet attending church, the Holy Spirit convicted me of sin regarding what I was doing on the Lord's Day.
Now why would he do that, if it was not a commandment?

Hebrews 10:25

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

You have absolutely no grounds for any of your claims from scripture, in fact the scriptures go against everything you have said about the Sabbath. I thought you were a ‘Sola Scriptura’ man, or is that only when you want to try to prove some point you are trying to make?

Dr. Tim wrote:
I am just curious. Do any of you who say that we are to keep the sabbath keep it on Saturday, and strictly observe the commandment that plainly says that you are to do absolutely no work on that day? If you fell out of your La-Z-Boy on a Saturday and broke your leg, would you call an ambulance to take you to the ER, or would you lie on the floor and moan until Sunday? If you say that the sabbath is for Christians as well as for Jews but you observe it on Sunday and do any work on Saturday, you can use any type of rationalization you want to to justify it, but you may as well admit that you are a hypocrite who tries to wrest the scripture to say what you want it to say.

Galatians 3:10

10 For as many as are of the WORKS OF THE LAW ARE UNDER THE CURSE: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW to do them.

The OT law required perfection and its precepts required the death of anyone who broke it.

Christopher think on this verse.

Matthew 10:34-36

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Is a Christian suppose to not stand up for what they believe in even if it means ending a friendship. Did not many of the apostles have falling outs over the Gospel and separate?

Matthew 11:28-29

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you REST.

29 Take MY YOKE UPON YOU, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

1 John 5:3

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

If they were referring to the Ten Commandments in the above verse why call them an unbearable Yoke in Acts 15? Why did Jesus say take His Yoke upon us? What is Jesus’s Yoke?

1 John 3:23

“And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.”

John 15:10

10 If ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

We are under the Law of Christ which is Jesus’s Commandments and not the OT Law. Paul addresses this here:

1 Corinthians 9:21

“To them that are without law, AS WITHOUT LAW, (being not without law to God, but UNDER THE LAW OF CHRIST,) that I might gain them that are without law.”

6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of THIS MATTER.

10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, TO PUT A YOKE upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were ABLE TO BEAR?

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have TROUBLED YOU with words, SUBVERTING YOUR SOULS, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and KEEP THE LAW: to whom WE GAVE NO SUCH COMMANDMENT:

So they discussed about the Law of Moses and said they didn’t tell them to keep the Law of Moses. But what is the Law of Moses?:

Joshua 8:32
And he WROTE there upon the STONES a copy of the LAW OF MOSES, which he wrote in the PRESENCE of the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.

What do you know it’s the Ten Commandments. If it was the intent of the apostles that we keep the Law of Moses wouldnt they of said so in the council of Jerusalem?

What gives people the right to change the day to Sunday and not follow the Laws given about keeping the Sabbath and claim they keep it? We aren’t under the OT law.

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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Sorry Kev, I usually try to stay out of disputes among brethren who post here. Sister B will readily acknowledge we don't see many things eye to eye. There were plenty of people showing AM the truth, I did not see the need to add to it. Forgive me for any wrong I have done to you or others. I will try to be more consistent in my posts here.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thank you John Uk and Sister B for your kind thoughts and words.
May God grant to DD wisdom, discernment, and grace.

The real John Wesley:

John Wesley had taken a tract written by Augustus Toplady, a Calvinist, in which Toplady had translated from Latin and published an excerpt of, Jerome Zanchius' work "Absolute Predestination". Wesley changed the meaning of the tract completely, disavowing the doctrines of grace found in it, and then published it with Toplady's initials, behind his back, in an obvious attempt to undo the good Toplady's tract was doing in England. Here is Pastor Toplady's letter confronting Wesley. March 26, 1770

John 17
2 As thou hast given him POWER OVER ALL FLESH, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast GIVEN HIM.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I HAVE FINISHED THE WORK which thou gavest me to do.

Jesus finished the work that God gave which gave Him dominion over all flesh before He was even crucified. This is that price Jesus paid to have dominion over all people the works that were seen in this verse. What is the work that He finished here? He lived a sinless life and lived in the will of the Father. The price paid in 2 Peter 2 are the works Christ did before the cross.

He finished the works that gave Him dominion over ALL people before the cross.

Is the blood of Christ a "common thing" shed for all? Or is Jesus's blood Holy?

Kev wrote:
You see John UK act as if he is innocent as he compares people to rabid monkeys and says they are backslidden and lifeless. You have BMC calling people neo-Calvinists and antinomians as she proclaims to have Christian character. You have some who call you a Calvinist or Pink when you haven’t quoted them. Then you have the little gangs such as wont correct others because they see it as: “well He is on my side so I can’t correct them.” You have others where soon as you show them something opposite of what they believe you aren’t loving. Do we stand for truth no matter who it is or do we go well I don’t agree with them but I won’t tell them because it might anger them. You have some who won’t answer straight up questions. Why is that? Maybe because it will contradict what they said. When scripture is presented do people try to conform to what is said or do they try to twist scripture to what they are saying? It is a blessing to be with like minded Christians. When certain subjects come up all they do is lead to strife so why bring them up? It would be better not to. If I have ever been rude to someone I apologize. I don’t think I am rude. I try to stand firm on truth as we all should.

John UK wrote:
Kev, John 1:29 doesn't mention sins. This is important.

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the SIN of the world.

SIN-SINS. There is no point JohnUK, I tried to correct you but there is no point. It be better to take a break then go down this road John.

Deductive reasoning:
Deductive reasoning, also deductive logic, logical deduction is the process of reasoning from one or more statements to reach a logically certain conclusion.

B. McCausland wrote:
Kev
1. There is no wrong in identifying tendencies by their proper names.
It is sad, and the individual's only problem, if people feel offended because they feel personally identified.
2. This was not stated. Please, reread in case you have misread, otherwise it is a misrepresentation, and an untruth.
Christians should not carelessly lie about others by easy or convenient presumption, neither to bring false witness or accusations at random as this.
Your practice comes to what the devil normally does: to falsely accuse the brethren without substantial, concrete grounds.

Romans 5

5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts BY THE HOLY GHOST which is GIVEN UNTO US.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But GOD COMMENDETH HIS LOVE TOWARD US, in that, while we were yet sinners, CHRIST DIED FOR US.