When you tell someone what will happen if they go 90 miles an hour in a 45 mile hr speed zone or drinking poison, you are not judging them but you are giving them a warning. The Church is to be like guardrails on the side of roads to warn as well as protect and the ambulance thatâ€™s sent to help someone that refuses to listen . There is only one road to heaven and that is the Calvery Road . The same road Jesus traveled and saved us from destruction It is Godâ€™s love that sent Jesus to that Cross. and that same love sends His own to warn and be a light to those still in darkness and that is not judging, We are to be the watchman on the wall giving the warnings when needed.
The Catholics, I know are not Bible scholars and are discouraged from even owning one. The Church as priest teaches them. No need to read on their own.Some are in our church and really donâ€™t have an understanding of what is being studied. Admitting they never really studied the Bible being discouraged from doing so. To my way of thinking, she knows evangelicals are a big support of Trump and tries so feebly to be like them, in order to get support as well.
I have different views from JohnUk and feel that he is a brother in Christ. I have put God in a box with my certain beliefs. What am a I, a child of God bought and paid for with the blood of Jesus. I go to a church that is as close to my beliefs as I need it to be. My closest friend disagrees on certain things that I believe so we never discuss those issues. I donâ€™t want to lose her fellowship. I leave things in Godâ€™s hands, only He can show truths to someone. If I try to I just muddy the water. Thanks for prayers for hubby. Last 3 visits with doctors he was given a good report. Feeling well enough to go Turkey Hunting ( making plans anyway JohnUk, donâ€™t leave in a huff. 2)You will be missed, I am saddened over my special bro from across the pond, deciding to throw in the towel! 3) for goodness sake stay away from that bad batch of blackberry juice,(??) Lurker keeps warning you about ðŸ¤ªLooks like my sabbatical is over. ðŸ˜‡
Thanks Carol, I have been strengthened and encouraged so much and so appreciate the prayers from others as well. I will be keeping on reading the things written by others but just wonâ€™t be taking part myself. Iâ€™ m just feeling a little overwhelmed right now. Thanks again June you have come a long way since you left the Catholic Church. Dr. Tim and James appreciate your prayers more than you all will ever know. Carry on..and other friends that I love dearly.
Thanks June, for your concern for my error and all but it has nothing to do with anyone on here, itâ€™s me and my frame of mind right now I have a lot going on with my husband being very sick with so many things. Yesterday was seeing a Kidney doctor, day before that a diabetic Dr and after hours there, we went to a funeral. Monday we are going to another Dr and 2 weeks later to his Cardiologist because he has 5 stents in the main artery (widow maker as my CRNA son called it) they just drop dead when that one blocks. 2 stents in another one. Family history is the men dropped dead before age 60. We have a $800 med Bill a month. My thoughts are if it stresses me I canâ€™t be a part and I am not helping anyone. I had to explain because someone might think I am angry.
Good morning, I see the discussion is still going on and nothing really accomplished. We each one still hold to our own beliefs and thoughts on this controversial subject. I settled it in my walk with God many. Years ago. Not much into this type thing and come away feeling worse than when I started in the discussion. I will be taking a sabbatical from here for how long, canâ€™t say. Have a blessed day, love to all.
Thank you, JohnUk !! You said exactly how it was revealed to me at age 23.How you see the interpretation of Paulâ€™s explanation about the gifts is clearly how it was suppose to be seen. I see it as well.At least, it makes the most sense to me.
Sorry that I caused confusion on here with my thoughts. Usually I never mention my experience and I did regret it on here. Be patient in bearing with the defects and infirmities of others,Of what sort soever they be; for that yourself also has many failings which must be borne with by others. If you cannot make thyself such an one as thou wouldst, how canst thou expect to have another in all things to thy liking? Thomas A Kempis I just read this and saw myself and so I sincerely apologize.
So glad that there are people that can interpret the Bible so accurately and can say without blinking an eye that this is truth because I say it is, not this is my interpretation of what is said here. Have a gay relative that says itâ€™s ok with God to be married to my partner because the ones that wrote in the Bible were mere men and thought that it was wrong not truth of God. How does anyone say that something so profound is no longer needed in todayâ€™s age. I marvel at the ones that are holding it together without this Blessing in todayâ€™s world. Just saying, take it or leave it
Thinking the same thoughts as how the Clintons have millions, I forget how much Bill makes on his speeches. Nothing said about that. And he blasts the media yet criticizing even this some do. Go figure.
Dr. Tim, there is a fourth reason; You want all that God has for you and when itâ€™s revealed you will give your all to receive. When you know something that has happened to you personally and others ridicule, say itâ€™s evil or for pride and if you say nothing , then youâ€™re saying that you agree.
John, interesting and I have read The Pilgrimâ€™s Progress but havenâ€™t finished it yet but now I will after your praise of it. So funny how God does something wonderful in your life and somebody who canâ€™t or donâ€™t want to believe it will explain it away. I try not to get involved in controversial things like this because it really doesnâ€™t help anything. Interesting because I had the experience not them. Like God telling you to serve Him for as long as you were a sinner instead of dying. He had a work for you to do and I see what you are saying. I, too, have wanted to go be with Him now and hear Him saying, not now you still have things to do. And that gives me peace.Canâ€™t wait to read rest of Pilgrim Progress. I have 2, one being older version and one which is newer being edited slightly. Which one is yours. Thanks for encouraging testimony.
John Uk, I really liked this word from A.W. Pink , I too have been encouraged by a word spoken by someone that may be even on this forum . God uses those that allow Him to use. My mother was a deep Christian that was raised Methodist in the years when they were very spiritual. She wore makeup and cut her hair but never wore pants. Actually her life was what inspired me to know Christ. She suffered abuse and physical pain but loved God. So thatâ€™s why I couldnâ€™t agree with a belief that was so difficult for me to believe. If my mother didnâ€™t make it to heaven then some of these Holiness people including my in-laws didnâ€™t have a chance.
Cont. back to the denomination I was saved in and am still there. Itâ€™s not a perfect church by all means but then neither am I. The pastor is preaching harder on sin and thatâ€™s needed in the hour we are living in and as the days grow darker when we can no longer work.
Cont Well Jim, where you have one interpretation by one preacher, who took it out of context, I can give you other great preachers that have experienced the phenomenon of this experience. A.W. Tozer and his book Alive in the Spirit, Andrew Murray,Experiencing the Holy Spirit, his book I am now reading.. D.l Moody, Jonathan Edwards and others that I have read about. Explain more about this working of the Holy Spirit. I learned from husband â€˜s family about the Holy Spirit. Never heard one sermon about the Holy Spirit and did argue with them until one night by my bed alone after attending one of their services, I wanted what I saw in them. My husband was frog hogging with his father. So, what happened there by my bed changed my life forever. Didnâ€™t speak in tongues or anything like that, still on my knees by the bed, when my husband came in my room at 12: oâ€™clock which I found hard to believe as I knelt down at around 8:30pm. An awesome experience I wonâ€™t go into that you wouldnâ€™t believe or even understand. I have been led to tell some that did go on to receive and they were already saved so it was something different than that. I understand exactly what Paul was saying to them even though I donâ€™t understand all of it. God absolutely moved me out of this particular denominat
, Paul is teaching on gifts of the Spirit in I Corinthians 14 because of confusion of speaking in tongues that could not be understood by anyone vs prophesy as a gift is better to have in church service that could bring an unbeliever to Christ. vs12 Even so ye, for as much as you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.vs13 Wherefore let him that speakerphone in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.vs 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful..vs15 what is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also;I will sing with the the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.vs 16 Else when thou bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupied the room of the unlearned say amen at giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? vs17 For thou verily give the thanks well, but the other is not edified. vs 18 I thank my God, I speak in tongues more than ye all: yet in church I had rather speak five words with my understanding that by my voice I might teach others also...vs19