Frank wrote: Excellent comment brother and of course your opinions are greatly prized by me and Iâ€™m sure others. I am simply going to say this. I didnâ€™t read the article, but I was never tempted to praise God for what took place.
Hey Frank, amen to that; it's a spiritual thing. And ecumenists do not like it when we start behaving like Jesus, or an apostle, or one of the disciples. They had a degree of discernment, and the NT is chock full of exhortations regarding false prophets, false teachers, false doctrines, another Jesus, false gospels, pseudo manuscripts, pseudo converts, and on and on. If you ask any ecumenist where all these are today, they look at you with a bemused expression; haven't got a clue.
"In a crowd of 6,000 people from all walks of life, all ages, and all races, I witnessed over 1,000 people respond to The Gospel by raising their hands to accept Jesus as their Lord & Savior!"
Shall I give my honest opinion?
No, I don't think I will.
Oh all right then, I will.
BIG ENDTIME DECEPTION!
Oh, it's only my opinion, and we do have freedom of speech on these here threads, don't we?
Of course it began many years ago, paving the way for such nonsense. Do you want to be saved? Here is what you must do: raise your hand in the air and accept Christ as your Saviour. After all, 999 other people are doing it, so it can't be that bad, can it?
The only problem is that the technique is not found in the Bible, and God does not work like that. God is a God who saves, and Christ is not a mere spectator, humbly waiting outside in the cold and rain, waiting for some poor sinner to open the door and let him into a warmer place. Jesus is the Almighty Lord Jesus Christ, and he can save the foulest of men. In fact he does save the foulest of men. And when they are saved, they acknowledge that. It is very humbling to be converted by the power of the Holy Spirit.
There is but one only,(a) living, and true God,(b) who is infinite in being and perfection,(c) a most pure spirit,(d) invisible,(e) without body, parts,(f) or passions,(g) immutable,(h) immense,(i) eternal,(k) incomprehensible,(l) almighty,(m) most wise,(n) most holy,(o) most free,(p) most absolute,(q) working all things according to the counsel of His own immutable and most righteous will,(r) for His own glory;(s) most loving,(t) gracious, merciful, long-suffering, abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity, transgression, and sin;(u) the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him;(w) and withal, most just and terrible in His judgments,(x) hating all sin,(y) and who will by no means clear the guilty.(z)
(a) Deut. 6:4; I Cor. 8:4, 6. (b) I Thess. 1:9; Jer. 10:10. (c) Job 11:7, 8, 9; Job 26:14. (d) John 4:24. (e) I Tim. 1:17. (f) Deut. 4:15, 16; John 4:24, with Luke 24:39. (g) Acts 14:11, 15. (h) James 1:17; Mal. 3:6. (i) I Kings 8:27; Jer. 23:23, 24. (k) Ps. 90:2; I Tim. 1:17. (l) Ps. 145:3. (m) Gen. 17:1; Rev. 4:8. (n) Rom. 16:27. (o) Isa. 6:3; Rev. 4:8. (p) Ps. 115:3. (q) Exod. 3:14. (r) Eph. 1:11. (s) Prov. 16:4; Rom. 11:36. (t) I John 4:8, 16. (u) Exod. 34:6, 7. (w) Heb. 11:6. (x) Neh. 9:32, 33. (y) Ps. 5:5, 6. (z) Nah. 1:2, 3; Exod. 34:7.
James Thomas wrote: No John, Your conclusions and assertions are far off. I'm mearly pointing out an obvious oversight in your beloved WFC which you appear to be defending. Apparently you don't think my suggestion of "God is Love" should be included in that list you are promoting. Shocking!
Hello James. I am not a Presbyterian, and so am not acquainted with the WCF/LC/SC. The quote I made was from the SC, which is a catechism for little children I believe, called the Shorter Catechism. I'm sure my Presby friends will set me straight if that info is incorrect.
Now if you want to go to the big boy's stuff, you need to go to the Westminster Confession of Faith, a confession which exceeds all your knowledge at a stroke, and which has sought to put down what the Bible teaches about numerous subjects, to assist the working man who does not have much time to study scriptures but who wishes to know what the Bible teaches. It goes very deep, including what the Bible is and how it is to be interpreted, which thing should find agreement with you.
Next post I will show you how deep the confession goes, including your text 1 John 4:8, which shows just a small part of what God is. Look for 't' in my next.
James Thomas wrote: John, I read through your suggestion on a bible study from this shorter catechism you posted. I can't say I'd want to go any further with it as the Question 4 you provided asks: WHAT is God? That question should be WHO is GOD?
James, you've just begun your own catechism. Congratulations. Statement of faith to follow no doubt.
James's Catechism Q4. Who is God? A. God is Love.* * 1 John 4:8
Personally I don't think it will catch on, but it's your life and you will do whatever you think is right.
James, the answer you gave to my question was very poor. If I had asked what a Christian is, the answer would have been fine: he is a person in whom Jesus Christ dwells by faith. But I asked if you knew any Christians in your district who were living in the "simplicity that is in Christ" and where they were to be found. Obviously you don't believe that all Christians are living in this simplicity, so I wondered if you were the only one, or are there others in Florida that you know about? Thank you.
I am shortly off to meeting, so I will look in later.
As an evangelical, you will not find me on such a platform as this with enemies of the gospel of Christ. Be not deceived. If any man claiming to be an evangelical accepts any other way to God apart from Jesus Christ and him crucified and risen, he is NOT an evangelical but an impostor.
Religious people need Jesus Christ, and over the years many religious folks have found salvation in Christ, to the glory of God alone.
Frank wrote: Amen brother! None of us can understand some things the Lord does and the manner He does them.
Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
That's the way of it, brother! He is the sovereign Lord God Almighty, and he knows what he does. Often it will be a mystery to us, but to trust him is most wise. Faith in Christ involves trusting him in all things. Thanks for quoting the text, it is always edifying and helpful.
I'm greatly looking forward to the Lord's Day tomorrow!
The Quiet Christian wrote: Frustrating, isn't it, John UK? Perhaps the Lord designed this trial as an instrument of building patience? Still, it is a aberration of justice from the human standpoint as you rightly suggest.
Amen QC, the Lord knows what he does, even when we don't know what he does.
James Thomas wrote: ... With the confusion and complication that denominational differences brings and befuddles believers, It clearly begs the question. What is the simplicity that is in Christ Paul mentions?
Hi James, I tell you what, before I will answer the question, "What is the simplicity that is in Christ"? let me give you the opportunity to evaluate your district (make it as big as you like) and then tell me where all the Christians are, who are successfully enjoying the "simplicity that is in Christ". [PLEASE answer this question, if nothing else.]
If you say that there are none, on account of denominational confusion and "lost the plot" syndrome, are you saying that you alone are left to tell the tale, and that your main mission in life is to get other believers to drop their confusing confessions of faith, creeds, commentaries etc., and enjoy the simplicity of just carrying a Bible only and following Jesus only?
James, can you not see that if you answer any spiritual question, you have made your own catechism, called James's Catechism?
James Thomas wrote: Thanks for the recommendation John. Although, nondenominational usually means its just a baptist church with a cool website.
It begs the question, James, What is a denomination?
Obviously you are opposed to denominations as unbiblical. You are opposed to apostolic succession. You believe in the autonomy of the local church. Great! So let's see how that works out when everyone gets on board.
In a certain district, there must only be one assembly of Christians, and they are the local church.
All the denominational churches within that district are to repent and disband: Methodist, Baptist, Presby, Adventist, RCC, Lutheran, Reformed, JW's, Church of God, Episcopal, Greek Orthodox, and all the others.
All the people from those groups are to now attend the only biblical church in town, which Jesus is not ashamed to call "Brethren" Hebrews 2:11-12. So the church is called "The Brethren" in Biston, Florida.
Who chooses the overseer in that church? Is there to be a membership? Who has the right to preach and teach in that church? What do you do with people who claim to be Christian yet disagree on interpretation? Would you permit the mass and transubstantiation? How will you baptise converts?
Frank wrote: John, your comment was absolutely perfect and so discerning. Thanks for posting brother; it was a blessing to me.
Amen brother. It is my belief and contention that in the last days (which we seem to be in right now), the "accuser of the brethren" will make mincemeat of the church of Jesus Christ, and cause a great falling away, for lack of simple strategy in the warfare against the forces of darkness. Too often we are sloppy and fall fast asleep in the pew (figuratively speaking) and think ourselves mighty fine, our worship is fine, our doctrine is sound, and we have no need of any repentance; there is no need to be serious-minded or sober, or fight for our life, all is well.
The apostle was not so, as we can see from his exhortation below, which teaching I am determined to follow, by the grace of God.
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. (Colossians 3:1-4 KJV)
Frank wrote: Good morning Pilgrim! The other day my wife and I took our grandson out to dinner. He is 27 and it was shocking, although I already knew, how little he actually thinks on his own. IOW, peer pressure is what drives him. His friends believe something and in order for them to stay his friends, has to believe the same things. Have a great day brother.
Good morning Stranger! And Alien!
What you say is too true. The programming is almost complete, and the zombies vainly imagine themselves clever dickies and sooooo modern. But it is the mind-control liberals who are the clever dickies, who run the humanoids from their high tech battlements. The sovereign Lord chooses to permit this, as it is all part of his overall plan of justice.
It always, without fail, causes me to pause and give thanks, for HIS great grace and mercy, which HE showers upon some, out of HIS own good will and purpose, without reference to anything within them, such as good works (which they have not) or faith in Jesus Christ (which they also have not) or repentance (in which they are not interested); yet they come to Christ as little lambs, believing on HIM and are SAVED - to the glory of God's amazing grace!
James Thomas wrote: But is it any different today where the doctrines of denominations dictate what God said as opposed to allowing Scripture alone to speak to those who are His?
James, I commend to you a nondenominational group of Christians, whose position is exactly what you just mentioned; find your nearest local one in Florida and check it out. They are called Brethren. And because all the brothers use only the Bible and not a commentary or creed, they can all minister the word during the Breaking of Bread assembly, because they all believe exactly the same, because they all use only the Bible. The Bible explains itself, so all you need is the Bible. A newly converted young man can minister the word of God at the Breaking of Bread because he is ministering a word not a creed; and God's word is easy to understand, whereas a creed or confession can take years to grapple with, being compiled by deep theologians and such like (John Owen for eg.), whereas the word of God is only given by inspiration of God, who, after all, is not much different to us, seeing as we are made in his image, and we have the mind of Christ. And so on, and so forth.
In John 3:5-8, Jesus is explaining to Nicodemus what being born again is all about, it is Spirit giving birth to spirit. It is spiritual life on top of physical life. It is the work of the Holy Spirit in a sinner's heart. Nicodemus ought to have known all about this, but...
Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? (John 3:9-10 KJV)
Jesus proves that he ought to have known these things from scripture by his reproof. After all, an ordinary man called Simeon, observing a father, mother and baby together at the Temple, proclaimed the baby to be the Christ, the Messiah. How so? He was a born again man, full of the Holy Ghost, and with revelations from God the Father.
If an ordinary man knew these things, Nicodemus ought to have known more, being a teacher of Israel. But he was dead, spiritually dead. He could not understand these things of the Spirit, because they need to be spiritually discerned.
It is the same today. Many, many souls, multitudes of them, profess faith in God, some even are teachers, but they are not born again; they are clouds without water. They have the words but no experience. Dead! Dead! Dead!
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? (John 3:4 KJV)
Nicodemus is puzzled, this is a great puzzlement to him.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:13-14 KJV)
However, we can gain something from these words of his. Firstly, he is old. He thinks of himself when he asks, "How can a man be born when he is old?" It is foolishness to him, he can't make head nor tail of it. He is a natural man, and an old man at that. Surely this shows us how patient God is with people, and we must needs also be patient, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Is God waiting for something?
Not at all, he knows what he does, even if man does not. Nicodemus is chosen as per Ephesians 1:3-6. And God will bring him to new birth after Jesus has taught him about it. Just as faith is authored by Jesus himself.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (John 3:3 KJV)
Ah, what a bombshell for Nicodemus. He was a great teacher in Israel, well respected, a member of the Sanhedrin, a descendent of Abraham, a believer of sorts (because he saw the miracles of Jesus), a Pharisee (who were regarded highly in ecclesiastical circles), and he called Jesus "Rabbi".
BTW, God already saw him as one of his elect, because it was God who had chosen him to salvation, and God has been very patient with Nicodemus through all the years of him teaching incorrectly. God's patience and longsuffering is oftentimes of a greater magnitude than that of mortal man, even those with a doctorate.
Now, at last, God, in his Son, is showing to Nicodemus the truth. It is truth he knows nothing about; he is totally ignorant of the new birth, even though as a teacher he ought to have known it, and he ought to have been teaching it to others.
Herein is the sovereignty of God, concerning when is the right time for revelation, quickening, conviction and conversion. Always we must keep in step with the Spirit, and hope for conversion as we witness.
There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. (John 3:1-2 KJV)
Now here is a remarkable thing. A Pharisee by the name of Nicodemus, a man who is part of the Sanhedrin and high up in ecclesiastical circles, is coming to visit Jesus at night. For secrecy. He wants instruction, but he doesn't want his peers to know he is seeking it from Jesus.
Nicodemus is very respectful towards Jesus, calling him Rabbi, acknowledging that he is a teacher come from God. He has accepted the miracles which Jesus had already done (John 2:23 possibly) and claims that if God was not with him, he could never have done those things.
The Jews were awaiting Messiah, and one thing expected of Messiah was the working of miracles.
It sure looks as though Nicodemus was a believer already. For sure, something is happening within him, which is not happening to the others in the Sanhedrin. Is Nicodemus one of God's elect? Sure looks like it.
He has made a good start to the convo between himself and the Lord.