There needs to be complete unity within christendom for any tactic to be effective. If all churches were to follow John MacArthur's example, it would be a force to be reckoned with. But fragmented, as the church usually is, nay.
1 John 5:7 KJV (7)Â For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:1 KJV (1)Â In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 KJV (14)Â And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV (16)Â And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: **God** was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
[True believers have the Holy Spirit (4:13; 5:10-11). This is an over-arching test summing up all the others. Is there evidence that the fruit of the Spirit is present in your life (Galatians 5:22-23)?]
[In summary, one's assurance of salvation does not need to be based on a past decision or an experience. It should rest first of all on one's faith in the objective truth of God's Word, Jesus Christ, and the gospel. Secondly, it should rest on the reality of a changed life marked by obedience, a love for Christ and His righteousness, and a hatred for sin. Take heart if these things are true in your life, and trust God to continue to work out His salvation in your life.]
***It should rest first of all on one's faith in the objective truth of God's Word, Jesus Christ, and the gospel.***
Ahem. Please note, and inwardly digest. Thank you.
[True believers confess their sin (1:8-2:1) Confess here doesn't mean to recite every wrong that we have ever done. Rather, it means to agree with God about our sin. That means that true believers hate their sin; they don't love it. They acknowledge they are sinful, and yet they know they are forgiven.]
[True believers keep His commandments (2:3-4; 5:2-3). The term here refers to a watchful, observant obedience. Here the believer desires to obey truths he deems precious. It involves a proactive approach to obedience-the Christian studies Scripture in order to understand and obey it.]
[True believers love the brethren (2:9-11; 3:10, 14-15; 5:2). Ask yourself the question, "Do I love God's people and desire to be around them?"]
[True believers affirm sound doctrine (2:20-23; 4:2,6). John here teaches that no true believer will fall into any serious, Christ-denying error or heresy.]
[True believers follow after holiness (2:29; 3:3-4, 6-9). These verses certainly aren't talking about sinless perfection, or even the frequency or duration of sin. The term sin in these verses describes one who lives an immoral, ungodly, unrighteous life as a matter of continual practice, and carries the attitude of hardened hate for God's righteousness.]
Pastor John MacArthur is going up in my estimation. He came under attack, and so I did some investigation, and I am glad I did.
Please note what he says about "assurance of salvation".
[There are two important tests in Scripture for a person to determine whether or not he or she is a true believer.]
[There is first of all an objective test, which asks, "Do I believe?" Ask yourself if you affirm the Scripture's record of the person and work of Jesus Christ. Do you believe that He is God manifest in the flesh? Do you believe that God saves sinners solely through the merits of Jesus Christ's obedient life and substitutionary death on the cross?]
[Second is the subjective or experiential test of assurance in which you ask yourself, "Is my faith real?" The apostle John's purpose in writing the epistle of 1 John was to give true believers assurance of their salvation (1 John 5:13). In that small epistle John gives several marks to distinguish a true believer.]
[True believers walk in the light (1 John 1:6-7). The light here means both intellectual and moral truth. Ask, "Do I affirm the truths of Scripture, and desire to obey them?"]
MS, you are out of order, but I forgive you and hope better days for you.
1. Someone who preaches heresy is called a heretic. It's not that difficult, so you shouldn't have a problem with that.
2a. I wonder why you didn't mention Jmac's email address and refer a certain evangelical feminist to write him about his supposed heresy?
2b. I am not here to obey evangelical feminists, but the Lord Jesus Christ, who is my Lord, and whom I serve. How on earth you can justify telling me what to do, I am at a loss.
3. None of my posts are rabbit trails. You just trot out that statement because you cannot gainsay my arguments. You know this full well, but being a woman you hate the very idea of being wrong, so you try to make up for it in other ways.
4. The grace of God is evidenced and seen by those with eyes to see. I have already shown this from scripture. A good tree brings forth good fruit. By their fruits you will know them, whether they be good or bad.
5. If you want the truth about what JMac says about assurance of salvation, please check out the following article where he addresses the subject.
Frank wrote: ... I donâ€™t have to make Christ my Lord. If I belong to Him, He is my Lord and I am His servant.
It is a very astute observation, bro.
A Christian is bought with a price, ransomed from the slave-market of sin, and he is indeed a servant of the purchaser.
I find it remarkable that some extremists can imagine to separate 'Lord' and 'Saviour'. He is our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
The chances are that some are duped by the strawman arguments which abound in this controversy. I've no doubt if pastor Jmac was confronted with pastor Shep's accusation, he would supply a refutation and give an explanation which would satisfy him, or at least ought to satisfy him.
The other thing is that Jmac did not invent the doctrine of Lordship Salvation; it has been around since the Bible was first written (as is easily proved) and diverse preachers over the history of the Christian church have balked at it. But they have always been in the minority.
In Gil Rugh's article, he begins by looking at some of the strawman arguments put forth by non-lordship proponents, and this is extremely helpful, for how can you trust someone who argues against a non-existing belief?
Brother Frank, thank you for your comments. I know that you have given this subject much thought over many years, and are very solid on it.
There are some who listen to one sermon and take the message on board without much thought, such as the Gary Shepard sermon recommended earlier. I thought it wise to expose it as incorrect. And I think it unwise for them to refer to pastor Mac as an heretic.
[Believe it or not, it is the Lordship position which actually embraces a full-orbed free grace ... this is because, God initiates and gives us new life SO THAT WE MIGHT believe. AND that same new disposition, brings us to repentance. Repentance is necessary for our salvation ... the gospel itself clearly and unambiguously says so ... this is no gospel addition .. but again, it certainly does not come from our own natural intrinsic ability. God's grace is what enables us to do so. If we look at 2 Tim 2:25 it speaks of how believers are to respond to persons who oppose the gospel and what God may do for them it says, "Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will GRANT THEM REPENTANCE leading them to a knowledge of the truth"]
[Repentance is another highly debated topic in the lordship controversy. At issue is the question, Is repentance part of true saving faith? Or put another way, Must a person repent of his sins to be saved? Different answers to this question have been given by those involved in the lordship debate. Hodges, for example, does not believe repentance is an essential part of saving faith. In fact, he believes that preaching repentance to an unbeliever is adding works to the Gospel. Ryrie differs somewhat from Hodges in that he believes repentance is a necessary part of saving faith. Ryrie defines repentance as a change of mind about Christ. To Ryrie, though, this change of mind is only in reference to Christ and does not necessarily include a change of mind about sin. Lordship proponents are agreed that repentance is a change of mind about Christ, but they also believe that a change of mind about Christ necessarily involves a change of mind about sin. In other words, a change of mind about Christ must also mean a change of mind about sin. The two go together.] Gil Rugh
2 Peter 1:4-9 KJV (4)Â Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. (5)Â And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; (6)Â And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; (7)Â And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. (8)Â For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. (9)Â But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
God's grace is visible.
Acts 11:23 KJV (23)Â Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
A pastor who baptises converts must needs be able to perceive the grace of God in a professing Christian's life before he will baptise him. Normally all that is needed is to chat with him/her, because Zion's language is detectable, as is also the pseudo convert. cf. 2 Cor 5:17
I did intend to listen to Gary Shepard's full message, but as often happens, he introduced his subject with a strawman which he was then obviously going to knock down in the rest of the message. Preachers do this when they have an insufficient argument for the cause they are promoting.
For those who are interested in the whole business of lordship salvation, it is necessary to get a consensus, arrived at by listening to many different preachers, because not all will hold exactly the same thing. This happens in other areas of Christianity, why not in this? For example:
[The essay you sent also charges the Lordship people as believing that ..."the promises of God's Word, while necessary for assurance, are not sufficient. One must also look to his works. No believer can have 100% assurance of salvation merely by looking to the promises in God's Word to the believer." Really? On the contrary, the Reformed position is the only position that trusts in the promises of God as sufficient.]
"It is important that we understand how works relate to salvation. There is a difference between works contributing to salvation and works being the result of salvation. When lordship advocates state that works follow conversion that is different from saying works cause salvation. Let us use an example from the natural realm. A baby born into the human race will do certain things because he is human. But we would not turn that around and say that the actions of a baby cause him to be a human. In a similar way, lordship proponents are simply saying that when a person has been saved and given a new nature, he will act like a child of God by doing works consistent with Godâ€™s character. This is not a difficult point to understand. That is why I am surprised by all the material written by men with advanced theological degrees who refuse to acknowledge this and still say lordship advocates are teaching works as necessary for salvation."
from Lordship Salvation - What Must a True Believer Believe? by Gil Rugh