Lurker wrote:
I sure hope by now someone else has called you out on this. Exodus 21:22 doesn't talk about abortion.
Edit: I see Frank has. Excellent article but Jim will ignore it as usual as it doesn't fit his agenda.

Yes the article I submitted refutes Jim’s assertions. The below can also be called itching ears and Jim is guilty of it.

Mike wrote:
Frank, my daughter too is a public school teacher, and she was told the same thing, no one can fail. State mandate. She said this results in the students who are lazy simply refusing to do their work. The interested ones of course do the work. The undisciplined lazy will graduate without skills or grades enabling them to go on, will end up poor, and tears will be shed over their plight, with more State rulings to fix the problem.
I agree we should speak out against it, but some will say that isn’t speaking the gospel, and that is all, so they say, that Christians should do. Otherwise we are judging those outside the church, so they say.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Exodus 21:22 shows that abortion is not considered murder.

The family unit is the most important institution that God established. But, now you have two working parents and neither wants to change that. Their children are considered to be nuisances and are not being raised in the fear and admonition of the Lord.

I have a daughter that teaches in public school and she has told me that teachers are told to not fail any student. So a student that is not up to standards will proceed to the next level anyway.

The above is from the article.

Now I defy anyone to find a scripture that even mentions the financial or emotional hardship concept. What these name it claim it folks do is make scripture progressive to benefit the feminist community. They may reason that because God loves them, then He would not want them to have an unwanted child??

Abortion is a matter of convenience; nothing more and nothing less. The below is for Jim.

http://prolifephysicians.org/app/?page_id=2

John UK wrote:
It is a good thing that he does, bro, as I don't think I have much of an IQ. Toyota used to make an IQ, one of the smallest cars in the world.
Not many people in the UK would have known about Turin, including me. But there is an excellent film made about that part of the war, and it focusses on Turin and the team that was set up to break the Enigma. I can't remember the title, but it may have been "Codebreaker", and makes excellent watching.

Deuteronomy 29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

John UK wrote:
Bro, I think we do it every day.
Now if I mentioned a genius called Alan Turin, would you know about him? He was a mathematical genius, and he was a sodomite which, at the time he lived in England, was illegal.
The German war factory had developed a machine for sending vital messages in code; it was named The Enigma machine. No longer could British intelligence intercept messages. The machine was so deadly that no-one could unlock the way it worked. That was, until an ungodly sodomite with a huge brain, was called in to develop a decoding machine. And he did it! And it was vital for the war effort.
Now what I am saying is that Alan Turin was an expert in his field. So much so, that he was the top brain in England, despite being unregenerate.
And his story could be repeated a multitude of times in various circumstances.
Is that not fair comment?

James Thomas wrote:
Yes, the only thing that should follow her name should be her inmate number.

And did Bill really not inhale.

John UK wrote:
Are these experts correct? Are they experts? And are they correct? What do you say, Mike?

Below is just me musing.

I tried to get an accurate percentage of scientists that believe in evolution. I did find the percentage of 99.9 mentioned several times. That would include these epidemiologists. Now how can anyone put their trust in a group such as this?

I personally have little respect for any scientific findings. That doesn't mean they are wrong, but that means I will use whatever information they provide and then rightly or wrongly use “my own logic” to determine what is right, wrong or uncertain.

I cannot believe how many ideologues there are. My wife buys into Trump's scientists and my daughters buy into the democratic scientists. If I ask any of them why, they simply look at me or say that’s what science says.

No Christian should or would resort to the following definition, but the world does.

soph•ist•ry = the use of fallacious arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving.

Watcher wrote:
Forgive me for being pointed, brother, but if you wanted to do what was best to keep you and your wife safe, why potentially expose yourself to COVID by going into the restaurant in the first place? As far as I see it, the staff's lack of care is no different than yours.

As far as I see it, the staff's lack of care is no different than yours.

Pretty harsh conclusion above. Anyway, we were caught by surprise; they weren't.
And because you felt it necessary to make me into some type of hypocrite that doesn't love his wife as much as I should, let's agree to ignore each other from now on.

Before you say something so ugly to a brother, you should ask why.

Mike wrote:
Frank is doing what he thinks best, and it is right for him to do so. It is based on what he knows about himself. It's called wisdom. It should be allowed others as well, no?
As for my convertible, if the roof has holes in it larger than raindrops, I might be tempted to conclude it isn't likely to keep raindrops from passing through it, even if non-automobile experts say it will keep me from getting wet, and more importantly that it will keep occupants of other convertibles from getting wet.

John UK wrote:
"Three times as many people have died from Covid-19 than from flu and pneumonia combined in England and Wales this year, official figures show. Between January and August 2020, there were 48,168 deaths due to Covid-19 compared with 13,600 from pneumonia. Only 394 were due to flu - a particularly low level."
- official figures -
"Coronavirus is continuing its spread across the world, with more than 36 million confirmed cases in 188 countries and more than one million deaths."
"The virus is surging in many regions and some countries that had apparent success in suppressing initial outbreaks are also seeing infections rise again."

I agree with both of your thoughts.

And once again Deborah enters into the conversation. The mere fact that she is the only female in scripture noted as a judge does not detract her name from setting a norm. We use itching ears to make the exceptions the rules.

And how do we know what input Priscilla had when she and her husband corrected Apollos? Perhaps she simply stood next to him and said amen or something like that. There is no indication in scripture who said what.

I have always thought that women like Pelosi cannot fool any Christian, but an even more sincere catholic like Barrett can fool so many.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

John UK wrote:
The Clintons are satanic? Dead right they are!
I'm not sure about Donald Trump being a gift. He is God's appointment, though.

I put all the unsaved on an imagined bookshelf. The left side are the liberals and the right side are the conservatives, but both are on the same unsaved bookshelf. No one can serve Christ in a positive way unless they are in Christ. To suggest that because someone is a conservative they are in Christ has the effect of dummying down the gospel by making it works based.

I have read where the Pharisees actually walked with their heads down so they would not lust after women. And of course the Sadducees took progressive stances.

Carl in Asheville wrote:
Another "Amen" brother. I would tweak the statement concerning "unintended pregnancies" and say that there is no such thing. Its like saying that a gun goes off by itself when I put my finger on the trigger; it was "unintended". I remember the euphemism from the 60's and 70's "Let's make a baby." Sex is the natural means of procreation.

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