Yes, Iâve been working outside today, too, Dolores. Iâm glad you like the verse I quoted (Isaiah 53:6). Itâs one of my favorites, and easy to understand. All we humans have gone astray, and God has laid on Jesus the iniquity of all of us. Of course itâs possible to twist any scripture like a pretzel and try to make it say something other than what it clearly says. That Christ offers salvation to everyone is one of the most hated doctrines by elitist heretics. That not everyone will be saved is one of the most hated doctrines by universalists.
Dolores, I apologize for any additional age I assigned to you. I love the sweet spirit you bring to the forum. There are more than enough brawling women in the world, without having them among professing Christians as well.
LB, âwhosoever, all and worldâ are not vague terminology. They are Bible terminology. But you donât believe the Bible. You just believe people like James Guyo who also donât believe the Bible. And yes, you have attacked Dolores viciously and repeatedly, and have done so again. If I am not mistaken, Dolores told us she is in her eighties. Are you? If not, where do you get off âcorrectingâ her? I do believe that Paulâs letter to Titus says that you should be learning from her, rather than the other way around. By the way, if you ARE in your eighties, please accept my apologies for not treating you with the deference the Bible commands.
Ladybug, your overflowing love and gentleness show that you are not only among the elect, but among the elite, the ones whom the King James Bible describes as âperfect.â If others could only reach the high plateau you have attained!
LB, as far as I can recallâand Iâm very tired, so my mind isnât working too well right nowââweâ have never discussed anything. YOU have pontificated and put your own personal spin on scripture, and when that didnât quite fit (which it almost never does), you tried to find another version or say that the Bible doesnât mean what it says. You use exactly the same tactics as every cultist in existenceâchange the words, change the meaning of the words, claim to have âprovenâ something when all you have done is given your personal view of it. Hereâs a verse that perhaps we can both agree means just precisely what it says: âCan two walk together except they be agreed?â Obviously not, so I think it would make for peace (does Romans 14:19 mean what it says, or does it mean something different from what it says?) if you go your way and I go mine.
Ladybug, itâs pointless to present scripture to you. You only believe the parts you want to believe, and you donât even understand those. And for anyone else who may be interested, â 1Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners...â If you recognize yourself as a sinner, youâre eligible for salvation, even if đ prefers that you go to hell.
Ladybug, I am not using doublespeak, nor am I being deceitful, and your continuing accusations are nothing but viciousness on your part. Anyone who comes to Jesus in repentance and faith for salvation receives salvation. If they âcouldnâtâ receive it, they wouldnât. The fact that they did come and receive it proves that they could receive it and are elect. I donât see how it could be any plainer, and there is not a word, let alone a verse, of scripture that denies or disproves what I have just said. I donât know what your motive is in continuing this infernal baseless debate, but obviously it isnât a desire to bring people to Christ. Christâs sheep, by the way, do follow Him. Unfortunately, sometimes they follow Him afar off (Mark 14:54), and sometimes they even go astray (Psalm 119:176). They not only go astray in deportment, but in demeanor and doctrine as well. If one of the âsignsâ of Christianity is having every iota of biblical doctrine nailed down without the least shadow of deviation, I doubt if thereâs a Christian on earth todayâunless perhaps youâre the only one.
Unprofitable Servant, you nailed it. Too bad some are either too blind or too proud to admit that the gospel does call for a response. The scripture says, âHo, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.â It does NOT say if youâre thirsty just hang around hoping some water will be poured down your throat. Does God do all the work of obtaining and providing the water? Yesâbut the thirsty soul must still drink it or do without.