I personally think that is a good idea...👍

The issue of red light cameras is sort of on both sides. The people need to not be speeding, and the government needs to get accurate/detailed cameras out there...

Running red lights are a big deal, but to me, not using your blinker is almost the same a riding on the wrong side of the road...

Great example. Being submissive to the Lord's will doesn't go hand in hand with pacifism...

David wouldn't have just let the Philistines kill him if he was in the middle of a sacrifice. He would have grabbed his sword and killed the attacking army. It was his job as leader of the nation of Israel to protect his people. And just, so father's have the duty to protect their children, and what of an more important time than in church!

This verse is for martyrs brother...

I am pretty sure this verse cannot apply to the Christian (and especially non-christian) caught in the cereal section at Walmart by a shooter who is not trying to specifically target God's people...

I agree to a fairly high extent that in persecution for the Faith, we have a duty to show our perseverance, and faith in Christ...

That is the point I am attempting to claim. The two far sides are, sit there and let them shoot you, and the other side is build a fortress and let no one near...

The middle ground is use the tools God has given to defend the innocent. Taking a pacific additude over self defense makes you have to take a pacific additude in other areas of danger in order to be consistent...

No guns...

In fifty years (assuming guns become illegal) will we be saying "no knifes required". Maybe "no metal rods required". Or even "no frying pans required"...

My point is this. Is this conversation about guns, or is is about self defense. Because in the UK, I have heard about quite a few knifings on the bus system. People will try to harm others regardless of what you take from them...

This conversation is really about, should we allow those who want to kill us for crazy reasons (be it in church, or at Walmart, or even in the bus) kill us, or should we defend ourselves or our loved ones from those who want to do harm...

Is it only the government's job to protect you, or should you protect yourself? Guns are just weapons. Those killed in shootings are just as dead as those kill in knifings...

Absolutely, that is a great idea. We won't have to ever worry about a shooter coming in and getting us while pickup up meat...

They keep us safe...

They protect little children, and big people from bad guys...

This is supposed to be a edifying forum where Christians like me can come and grow and encouraged by others...

I am not sure if these place is being monitored, but if it is, I am surprised Jim has not been band from here years ago...

The only thing is that I had to set my phone across the desk to see it...

The caps lock button has a feature where, if you leave it on, it types everything in caps. If you push it one more time after the first word, it turns off...👍

The rest of the nation is sick and tired of being way behind the folks in Mississippi. So they just decided to lower the grades to our scale...

It nice to see the country standing behind us in leading the world by having the most students finish classes with an A...

If only the rest of the nation would get over their bias of the critter, everyone would be completely self sufficient for meat...

I see your point well. Especially now that we're nearing almost half a century of women and men working in close contact in the workforce...

Your valid point is that he wasn't asked to do anything sinful or wrong. So the biggest problem here, is not that he was told to do something out of the ordinary or sinful, but that this women is in the workforce. The underlying issue it that women have not been given the authority to work under other men under most circumstances...

It's not a matter being "in". But really a matter of "never being in"...

Maybe someday in the future the Lord will save him...

I agree...

I am personally not an Argument Guy (I prefer to be "Just a Guy). My reason for asking is that anyone who believes in something does a much better job of articulating that belief than the one who doesn't see it the same way...

But I realized that even though C. S. Lewis was proclaiming it as Christian, his over use of witch craft was a big reason I don't care for it anymore. The Bible clearly states that we should have nothing to do with witch craft, and that would include using it as symbolism for the Gospel of Christ...

It would be like someone using a sodomite marriage to portray the marriage of Christ and His Church. Same concept really...

The Scriptures have commanded us to not forsake the gathering of the brethren. Those who claim they are not in need of a church are not following this command, and usually for their own purposes...

Of course this isn't an issue of salvation but really, if your saved, why wouldn't you want gather with other Christians?

If I had to serve a God who couldn't even keep His children in the fold of God, than that is not a God I want to serve...

To say that God doesn't have the power to keep his own (Election, Calvinism) than you are putting him lower than man...

Not to mention man is inherently wicked. We would never choose to come to God, unless he chose for us to be His. And if He has to choose for us to come, than he has to keep us in his kingdom. And if we did have the choice to leave than that would make God to have made a mistake, which of course is not possible...