John UK wrote: Thanks for the info, sister. Yes it is unfortunate there seems to be a severe lack of teaching on taking up a cross. Maybe the current generation love their life too much? I don't know. How about if every church was to do a big series on counting the cost of being a Christian? Or on receiving Christ as Lord as well as Saviour? Or on preparing to die for Jesus? Or on realising that through much tribulation we must enter the kingdom of God? Things like that, in preference to patting the church on the head and saying, "There, there." Old books on missions seem full of sacrifices and hardships and God's blessings and spiritual warfare and revivals.
Yes brother well said and your points were outstanding. How someone can say they belong to Christ, but are not one of His disciples is something that confuses me.
During the tribulation, those that are found by the antichrist will either die for the sake of the gospel or take the mark that means they will worship the false Christ.
Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
Christopher000 wrote: Hey Mike, my guess is that this guy got all of his news, like so many others, from the mainstream outlets, instead of balancing the sources. Say I'm right...then, as far as this guy knew, Trump was in fact a raging bigot, and hated Hispanics, etc. Bottomline though, is that it takes much more than anything like that to get a mentally healthy human being to murder, so there's a much bigger picture than a murderous response to mere words. The guy was a psychological mess...
Well said Chris! The key issue is this person is evil and mentally deranged. Society needs to blame something in culture that makes them commit mass murder. They simply cannot resolve themselves to truly believe there is in fact a devil and that devil is in fact a murderer.
Trump is an easy target and to believe his thoughts regardless of what they are is the cause of these things is simply Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: read your own article, they had no clue who wrote the "manifesto". Plus you are saying that the cause of this man's actions was some how related to his skin color. That is blatant racism. You must believe that blacks are half the prison population despite being 13% of the general population because they are of a darker skin. The blackness is found is in the heart, not the pigmentation of the skin. I hope SA removes your racist remark
I agree brother, good comment. Jim would say that even though 95% of blacks voted for Obama, that wasn't racism. Jim admits he voted for him, but my guess is he would put a different spin on his motives.
I remember when I was working, we had a public reception room that had a TV. When they announced the O.J. Simpson verdict; all the blacks had gathered to hear it and they all left raising their hands and literally saying "praise the Lord". No racism there either.
Well there is a good bet that those women donâ€™t adhere to the below Titus 2:5 verse. (Sarcasm) Not all that long ago most women simply sought a man that would be faithful to her and provide for her and she could stay home and be a wife and mother. Not any more. The worldwide womenâ€™s liberation movement says that a woman has a choice; to either work or find a husband to provide for her. It appears they clearly chose the work idea. From the article:
â€śThe shift is tied to the changing Japanese work force. Close to 70 percent of women ages 15 to 64 now have jobs â€” a record.â€ť
I have never researched this comment, but my guess is America led the way. And this so-called liberation movement has taken over our churches as well.
Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Much is more than likely due to lack of contentment with the things we already have (Hebrews 13:5)
Perfectly said brother and 13:5 is a verse that we should all embrace. The below on one of my favorite verses and fits well with yours:
Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
I have personally failed miserably in the area of trusting and being satisfied with the things we have. And then I remember the poor Christians who live in poverty. Or a man who was being burned at the stake looking out in the crowd and seeing his wife and children now without a provider. But, still praising his Lord and Savior.
David Gelernter, a famed Yale University professor, has publicly renounced his belief in Darwinâ€™s theory, calling it a â€śbeautiful ideaâ€ť that has been effectively disproven,â€ť the College Fix reported.
The above is as far as I was able to read?
Anyway, the theory of evolution isnâ€™t a beautiful idea. It was purely satanic from the beginning and there is no semblance of truth to it; not even a minute truth. Its only purpose was to lead people away from the creation account and the true Creator.
I have talked to many folks over the years about evolution. I asked the ones who said they believe in it, why they believe it. They would give me some scientific reason and I would then ask them if they were scientists. They all said no, so I asked them why they believe something they couldnâ€™t possibly understand. Sarcasm below:
There was this cell that decided to multiply. This cell somehow in spite of irreducible complexity grew into a fully alive human being. It then knew that it couldnâ€™t reproduce without the opposite sex, so it started all over again with the mathematical impossibility of forming the opposite sex. Now multiply this times a few million and you get the world today.
Frank wrote: I remember my mother used to go to Pentecostal tent meetings where they would say if anyone wants to be baptized into the Holy Spirit to come to the front. She did and she couldn't speak in tongues. They whispered into her ear to just start mumbling and it would come to her. The baptism of the Holy Spirit ended at Pentecost. If you want a meditation I did on that subject, just email me. I won't discuss this with you on the forum.
One of the brothers corrected me on my wording of the above. I shouldn't have said Pentecost, but during the book of acts. IOW it ended when the church was established.
Mike wrote: Agenda prophets are always predicting that which profits them. As for true sky is falling scenario, with trillions of debt, and without ending the totally undisciplined spending, how can it not happen at some point? Unless we be the first in history to bypass the balancing of the economic books.
I agree Mike, there will be a massive decline some day. The insiders wonâ€™t be affected, but we peons will lose all that we have. When that occurs, then I think the below verses will take on the significance they were intended to have.
1 Timothy 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Isnâ€™t it wonderful that our Lord can see all of our hearts, intentions and motives! And He also said how hard it was for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God; not to love this world; and that the love of money was the root of all evil.
Dolores wrote: Frank, I donâ€™t know your email but am interested in your meditation on the subject as I did leave after a few years..
Well Dolores, if you read closely there was nothing in my reply to you that was ugly. All I did was respond to what I felt was you saying that you received the baptism in the Holy Spirit and I believe that is not possible in the sense you meant it.
You have corrected or disagreed with many folks over the years, so I'm not sure of the personal dilemma?
Anyway, if you want the meditation, then my email is noted right after my name on my moniker line. It shows an "envelope". You simply click on that and SA will get your request and forward it to me. I will then respond directly to you.
If you have changed your mind, then simply ignore this post. I won't be offended in any way.
Addendum: I will never share your email address or anything we discuss with anyone for any reason. In fact, no one will ever even know you responded to me.
I agree with your assessment of their defense group. I have always believed that most catholic priests are homosexuals and 99 percent of their church clergy support that abomination. The mere fact that they donâ€™t allow them to marry supports that thought.
The RCC is the perfect place for homosexuals and pedophiles to practice their abominations. They have relations with one another or some child and then simply confess it to each other and then they absolve one another. What a sham. As a child and teenager, I went to lots of confessions.
I read once where future priests are asked if they are homosexuals. If they say yes, then it doesnâ€™t matter as long as they claim they have not practiced if for a specific period of time.
Dolores wrote: Cont They gathered around me to pray for me to receive the Holy Ghost which I never knew or heard about but for some reason it became clear to me how important it was for me to seek for. Yet, I said them,â€ť No, Iâ€™m not worthy.â€ť
I remember my mother used to go to Pentecostal tent meetings where they would say if anyone wants to be baptized into the Holy Spirit to come to the front. She did and she couldn't speak in tongues. They whispered into her ear to just start mumbling and it would come to her.
The baptism of the Holy Spirit ended at Pentecost. If you want a meditation I did on that subject, just email me. I won't discuss this with you on the forum.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Must confess I pulled a Frank here and didnâ€™t read the article
I didnâ€™t read the article!
Brother U.S. using the expression â€śpulling a Frankâ€ť has a negative connotation to it, so it is a form of sarcasm.
â€śUsuallyâ€ť when I donâ€™t read any of an article I will say so. IOW, I am commentating on the comment someone made. There is nothing wrong or misleading when I do that. In this thread, I was simply commenting on what John UK said. I didnâ€™t care about the article and I didnâ€™t care whether you or John read it or not.
But, if you ever think that I should read an entire article, then I will. Most comments on this forum donâ€™t concern themselves with the specifics of an article.
Interesting about the Japanese culture, but I wouldnâ€™t associate them or any culture with Gal. 5.
I always thought they wore those masks because of air pollution?? Yes, in many ways the American culture is more annoying than others. For instance in Germany, people generally will not touch things that donâ€™t belong to them and they make a greater effort to be respectful to one another, such as when greeting each other. I remember a time there when it was disrespectful for a woman with a small child to take a bus because it inconvenienced others. It was extremely rare to see wheelchairs in public, etc. because it inconvenienced others.
I lived there for 7 Â˝ years so right or wrong that was my perception. They often referred to Americans as "ugly Americans".
Neil wrote: Perhaps beating a dead horse here, but the problem is not lack of gun control, but lack of self-control. This, however, is hard for many to swallow, given 2 generations of arts and media propaganda telling us unrestricted self-expression is always a good thing, and repressing emotions is bad. Erhard Seminars Training and Primal Therapy were hyped during the '70s. Gal. 5:19-23 has a very different message. And I don't think many 2nd-Amendment fans understand this either, as many conservatives identify with the old chest-beating American cult of radical individualism. Harley-Davidson sells Hog motorcycles as symbols of this.
Good points Neil!
The only thing a moral person ever does with a gun is hunt, target practice or protect themselves, their loved ones, or someone who is being attacked from an immoral person. I have 2 guns in my house and if someone breaks in while I am home, then IMO they are ready and willing to harm me or my wife. I will shoot them until they stop and if they die I am not responsible, they are.
Well U.S. look at it this way. If I live in letâ€™s say Africa, my civil rights are different than if I live here. So, those civil rights have nothing to do with being a Christian because a Christian is the same wherever he/she lives. They have all been bought and paid for. If I live here, I have the right to vote or to go to any church I like. If I lived in Saudi Arabia, I do not have the right to attend a Christian church.
So, do I have a right to attend a Christian church? Yes, if I live in America. Culture is your caveat.
What I am trying to say, obviously poorly, is Christianity is not cultural. I obey secular laws only if they donâ€™t conflict with my Christian duties. They mean nothing to me because I belong solely and completely to Christ.
Well brother John, I still consider myself a slave of my Lord and by saying that I have forfeited all rights that affect that.
I have been bought and paid for by my Lord and Savior and He now owns me. He owned Paul also, so when Paul noted what the law said, he was not claiming a Christian right, it was a citizen right, similar to me saying I have a right to vote.
I donâ€™t mind people trying to find exceptions to something, but when that happens the exception often becomes the rule. It would be like saying some genuine Christian women work, so all Christian women can work.
Anyway, I appreciate U.S.â€™s comment, but simply want to say, I wasnâ€™t saying I donâ€™t live in a civilized society with rules and laws that apply to me; render to Caesar, etc. But, the Lord doesnâ€™t have to allow me any of those rights if He chooses. I, all of my possessions and all of my civil rights belong to Him.
â€śIn other words, prosecutors must regard a crime a being motivated by hate if the person â€śperceivesâ€ť himself to be of a protected class and â€śperceivesâ€ť that the accused was motivated by hate.â€ť
I consider the above to be beyond illogical. If I say something to a black and that black perceives that it is racist, then it is racist. Same thing goes for females and all forms of the LGBT movement. And if someone is a Muslim, Hindu, etc., the same thing applies. They are always being attacked for their faith.
Just look at the group of congressional ladies called the â€śsquadâ€ť for the clearest example. Trump recently said that a certain black politician should clean us his own crime ridden, rat infested neighborhoods. Because the fellow was black, then the comment was racist??