1 Corinthians 14:3 KJV

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Your comment has slipped in so much confusion into this thread that it is hard to describe it all. You managed to bring in this confusion by applying a term, "coming war with Russia" that you have seen me use thus indicating you are dealing with the same thing as I am.

Your points on several levels don't make sense. Because God is not the author of confusion I am going to ignore you until God, if He will, allows you to make a comment in this thread that does not cause so much confusion in this thread.

BTW Chris if it wasn't for my Father, that is, God, I wouldn't have done for my neighbor what I have done for him.

I can assure you that I like all other human beings who have an adamic nature, and all human beings have that nature, I have the capability of being quite selfish. sometimes I sadly even demonstrate that selfishness.

Several days later, my neighbor knocked on my door again and
announced he had problem he wanted fixed concerning the two religious programs I had put on his computer

My neighbor had decided he wanted to check out the two religious programs and found when he clicked on them nothing happened.

I then came over and found out the problem that was occurring for him. I had installed on his computer from a USB drive of mine an exact copy of theWord software program I use with its various Bibles, books and commentaries.

I had also installed an exact mp3 copy of a LP record I had heard about 1969 which is called, "The Coming War With Russia".

1truth1way1life wrote:
I yet to read in the Bible where God has removed anyone or his chosen people from anything that come up against them ie the great tribulation. He has made a way for us to go through it and that is Jesus the Christ. So I ask this where is your focus

Matthew 5:16 KJV

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

I live in an apartment building. I gave to an unsaved fellow in the apartment immediately to the left of mine a computer, speakers to go with it, and a new 24 inch moniter for it. I also installed on the computer some programs that would allow him to travel safely on the internet: web browser, firewall, antivirus, etc.

I believe it was several months later when he banged on my door and told me he had no sound coming through the speakers and asked if I could fix that problem for him. After a couple of attempts, I was able to do that. To fix the problem I had to put according to my memory one more program on his computer. I also asked him, in effect, if he would like a couple of religious progams on his computer. Two religious programs ended up on his computer.

John UK wrote:
Imagine that, hundreds of ebola germs flying around Texas looking for a suitable home.

So I will press on with a search for the correct answer, if there is such a thing as one correct answer, and not an answer that involves several correct answers that depend on particular situations involved.

Perhaps, a little more information about my potential law suit will help at this point. The target of my lawsuit, should it come, would be a large organization that is not a Christian organization. The organization has many human heads heading up various departments.

There are undoubtedly many unsaved people in the organization and probably some saved people.

But if I sue it would not be an individual but rather the organization itself.

I invite anyone who wants to help find a solution to post a comment but with the following caveat: This thread has been up to this point exceptionally cordial compared to other threads I have seen and I believe God wants it to stay that way. So, strive to walk in the Spirit when posting a comment.

I am still seriously thinking about suing an entity in the world's courts but by no means have actually decided to do that so I will at this point return to my search for help in making up my mind.

By way of brief review of this thread, in regard to my concern just outlined: Frank has declared he believes a believer should never sue another believer and that he isn't sure about a believer vs a non-believer situation. Frank's position is basically my postion as I have declared a believer should never sue a believer in the world's courts. And while I am seriously thinking about suing an enity I am not certain I should do that, and my uncertainty indicates the entity involved is non-believing in Jesus Christ.

Clarke Kent Kryptonite and Shane (both of whom are not me Christopher000 ) by way of questions have contributed significantly to this thread.

Shane has introduced some very penetrating questions that have helped me in my search for the correct solution to my, in effect, dilemma.

I perceived Shane bridged love and mercy in one question. After I thought about that bridging I then thought perhaps the correct solution lies in bridging love, mercy, and judgement but I admit I am not certain that is the solution...

Rodney K. wrote:
Great points, bro. US!!
Certainly we must be graceful in regards to eschatological differences. Personally, I consider myself to be "pan-trib" - God will win and it will all pan out in the end.

I will now add pan-trib to my repertoire which already includes pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib and no-trib.

Treasure from the Professor Mr Walvoord:

[URL=http://www.walvoord.com/audio/by/album/the_rapture]]]what`s here is listed below:[/URL]
John F. Walvoord - The Rapture Part 1
John F. Walvoord - The Rapture Part 2
John F. Walvoord - The Rapture Part 3
John F. Walvoord - The Rapture Part 4
John F. Walvoord - The Rapture Part 5

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Dopey, I'm glad you saw the thread. I do see the original article that SA referenced, has expired. I wonder why? I have one of Woolvaard's two volume Bible commentaries written with another fellow, Roy B. Zuck, a fine writer in his own right.

Help my blindness and give me the date and time of what ever post you are referring to i.e.

[URL=http://biblehub.com/2_thessalonians/2-11.htm]]]2 Thessalonians 2:11[/URL]

[URL=https://www.raptureready.com/who/John_Walvoord.html]]]The WHO WAS ? WHO of Prohecy[/URL]

"...John F. Walvoord died on December 20, 2002, at the age of 92. No doubt, as one of America's foremost theologians and prophecy experts, Walvoord had hoped to see Jesus descend with the sound of a trumpet to gather His faithful unto Himself, in the rapture. For John F. Walvoord, however, that was not to be the case. He joined his son Timothy, who died in a tragic car accident, on June 22, 1979, in the glorious presence of His Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ.

“A living dog is better than a dead lion.”
Ecclesiastes 9:4

Life is a precious thing, and in its humblest form it is superior to death. This truth is eminently certain in spiritual things. It is better to be the least in the kingdom of heaven than the greatest out of it. The lowest degree of grace is superior to the noblest development of unregenerate nature. Where the Holy Ghost implants divine life in the soul, there is a precious deposit which none of the refinements of education can equal. The thief on the cross excels Caesar on his throne; Lazarus among the dogs is better than Cicero among the senators; and the most unlettered Christian is in the sight of God superior to Plato. Life is the badge of nobility in the realm of spiritual things, and men without it are only coarser or finer specimens of the same lifeless material, needing to be quickened, for they are dead in trespasses and sins.

John for JESUS wrote:
Michael Hranek...
As I suspected, there are no verses which talk about a rapture of the church. Thanks for helping me demonstrate that fact. I could under your concern about me soul winning if this forum was about that, but it's not and others are debating also. The Resurrection isn't a matter of interpretation, it's in the scripture. The Rapture isn't.

1. 9/30/14 12:22 PM
2. 9/30/14 12:32 PM

John F. Walvoord was an expert on Bible prophecy. Any one here consider themself an expert on Bible Prophecy equal to John F. Walvoord? If so, please identify yourself.

John F. Walvoord - Rapture Comes Before Tribulation

John F. Walvoord - What Happens to a Christian After the Rapture?

[URL=http://www.walvoord.com/audio/by/album/rapture_series]]] Listen to them both here[/URL]

One:
[URL=http://raptureready.com/index.php]]] Rapture Ready[/URL]