John, mine is not a futuristic view of 'prophesy' as a system.
All prophesy has been fulfilled in Christ and what has yet to follow is the gathering up of the spoils of it as it were, fulfilling the rest the OT prophets detailed.
What we have in the NT are warnings, advice, signs, directives, some specific or general trends and tendencies, currents that repeat themselves, or powers and agendas in action as described with the symbolic gender of Revelation.
For instance, Christ warned about false christs, (anointed ones), false brethren, and prophets, and fraudulent workers.
He warned about intrinsic persecution as a given with the assurance of his coming as the fulfilment of all things.
Tyranny, scarcity, oppression, and tribulation come in waves fulfilling God's purposeful disciplines, chastening and purification of his own in different periods.
The *wake up* of today has to do with what Christ warned about: 'watch and pray'. Yeah watch the wickedness about and pray to be delivered from evil.
The command "do not be deceived" permeates to this day.
Disclaimer. Matthew 24 should be seen in the light of 70 AD
Scripture quote Surely the secret things of God are his and the revealed are for us and our children. We have in mind the particular circumstantial instances when his will and doings, as with Job, or Joseph, are not disclosed to our understanding while going through personal trials, dilemmas or tribulations.
Phillip Mezzapelle wrote: Let me say that even this is caused in part by Big Brother. If there is one country that has taken a beating due to the Covid-19 crisis, it is Italy ... There is something though that has been on my mind lately. I find it interesting that when the lockdown started more than two months ago, not one supermarket employee has come down with the virus and in turn, infecting the entire supermarket... Hmm
Scripture quote wrote: In light of these things see Psalm 94:15-23 and Psalm 9:1-4
Surely, historically tyranny shows up in waves, yet if it were not by God's continual mercies, "I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living."
Britain has been swallowing labour policies for the last 80 years but not by name, but by the unnamed buying bribes of handouts.
All the while, the media marginalised evangelical population has been too distracted with fleshy innovation, personal entertainment and materialistic advancement to discern this, or the more conservative sector with man-centered evangelism, petty doctrinal schemes or escathology, but none questioning the loosing of rights to the state. The point becoming that the church has not been able to discern between the supreme God-given law against humanistic policy.
This is why the present denial of the God-given right to man to earn his living with the exchange of state wages for doing nothing has not taken any by shock.
The philistines own our iron tools, yet it pleased God for this not to be like this for ever. Divine intervention can be sought and repentance experienced.
Thank you, John. Of late, our witnessing has been curtailed publically in the streets and privately at the work place with subtil discrimination and non-proselating regulations, our freedoms of trading have been violated, e.g.the cake baking, the educating our children is under constant surveillance against the state agenda, dictating and regulating what we can teach and what we should not teach. The state can legislate the discipline in our homes, and the rights of parenthood, our works of charity have been hijacked by the welfare system with its amoral and none-accountable taxation, and the charity status of our giving, and our right to proper information is constantly censored eliminating from platforms items of disagreement to avoid 'harmful influences', while violent, indecent and promiscuous literature and film production are untouched as individuals' rights.
Now a step further, our worship is banned in the name of the public good. It should not have surprised us!
Because we have assimilated a miriad of subtil intrusions, the church has had no difficulty to take this later one, to the point that it seems there are no alternatives.
The worship of the state is paramount, obviously displayed by the posters thanking the NHS as the great saviour.
John, this world is not our home, but we live in it and what happens in it as tyranny, invasions, distortion or injustice will affect the child of God.
That we are in HIS hands and that we should be ready to seal our ownership with death if circumstances called for as with the Hebrew children, the early martyrs or the reformation martyrs, it is a given.
But also if we are to pray that we may live peacefully, this is a call to think along what contributes to that. "... supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks ... for kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour"
The shape of a state determines the quality of Christian living which will include witnessing, worship, trading, educating our children, works of charity and so on.
The church is been part of the problem because she has for long embraced statism, which means to believe that the state with our best interest in mind is responsible for all our wellbeing in order to provide solutions, at the expense of individual accountability.
In passively accepting that creed we have contributed to the erosion of critical thinking which feeds state control.
John UK wrote: Hello sister, no, not at all. All I would like to see is, an alternative. There is plenty of grumbling, which armchair generals are good at, but nothing concrete to go on, what to do, etc. Again, this is manipulation, getting people all wound up against the guv, yet never giving the plan for the Christian to follow. Chris asks where are the pastors who will give guidance and actually lead. Well, there are very few, if any at all. People have been watching Mulder and Scully for too long, and have been rewarded with paranoia, seeing every guv in a plot to rule the world by stealth.
Statism is the prevailing tune, and this leaves a society without alternatives.
The Quiet Christian wrote: 1. I do not completely agree with that the Apsotle John's record is quite so figurative, although there is clearly some. But I didn't see what he saw either. We cannot be sure how things appear from the other side of the Veil ... 2. Concur that saints do not have that mark, but you raise an important distinction in loyality to one's sovereign, I believe, in your point to ponder.
1.The language is figurative and the figures are self-explained by others parts of scripture. For instance, it is obvious how the beasts can be considered as ongoing socio-political entities, the horses are ongoing divine purposes in action and direction, the vials comprise the content of God's will in store, the thunders speak of God's positive pervasive presence and determination, and so on. It all depends on the lenses of your escathological take.
2. Many instances of tyranny have brought to mind the mark of the beast to different generations. Presently, if identifying forceful ID vaccination with the mark of the beast, believers would be left with not chance. But the mark of the beast includes the worshipping of the system and ultimate perdition.
John UK wrote: Chris, I appreciate your post, but it seems to me that although you responded to mine, you carefully avoided answering the question. As for Bill Gates' vaccine program, don't worry about me bro, I shall be avoiding it just as skilfully as you avoided answering my question.
John, All that does not proceed of faith is sin, and certainly you show faith in your approach to the topic, yet Scriptures also tell us that the simple (naive) believes everything.
"The simple believes every word: but the prudent man looks well to his going."
The proverbs of Solomon ... were meant to give "subtilty to the simple", Prov. 1:4
You seem to treat lightly brother Chris' information, but on bringing it into consideration, the gaps, censoring, covertness and bias the media displays come evident.
Chrisgp from England wrote: ... a compulsory marking vaccine with digital marking tattoo. Besides ... these media giants have a nasty habit of peremptorily censoring and cutting off those things they donâ€™t like, so churches that get too close to uncomfortable subjects for the globalists can get cut off, censored, blacked out or their app removed. ... a mandatory vaccine for all, combined with a permanent microchip or quantum tattoo which can be scanned for id, and to permit travel, access to goods and services, etc. This has been their desire all along
Brother, it looks disturbing, yet divine intervention should be sought and not ruled out,
"The LORD brings the counsel of the heathen to nought: he makes the devices of the people of none effect"
The Lord took oof the wheels of the Egyptian chariots, so that the evil intended was not ultimetly performed.
"... they intended evil against thee: they imagined a mischievous device, which they are *not able to perform* "
Still we know that the Lord was intended to spare Sodom for the sake of a handful of his own. Either or, "... except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened"
Carl in Asheville wrote: ... Makes you wonder if the Media has become that talking image of the beast in Revelation 13:15 --- Rev 13:15 SOMB It was permitted to give breath to the beastâ€™s image so that the image would even speak and cause all who refused to worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Thanks for linking your thoughts to this particular chapter. Thought provoking. Many broad guidelines and principles of thought can be gleaned when meditating on the narratives of figurative speech in the book of Revelation.
Just as a point of curiosity for all to ponder about. Those receiving the mark of the beast on his hand or forehead worship the beast and are destined to the eternal torment. Compare Rev.13:16-17 with Rev. 14:9-11 So saints do not have the mark.
Adriel wrote: ""According to the data, roughly 66 percent of hospitalized coronavirus patients within the state were admitted from the safety of their own homes"" So self isolating did not work? How then does the virus work? If it can pass to those who are staying away from contact with other people then it must be floating around anywhere and everywhere.
Useful series Very thankful for men as Mr Ridle who painstickingly bring apart the fallacies of those that "speak great swelling words" of vanity and deceit to the subverting of their hearers, whose months may God stop.