O‚Äô how I am ever so grateful, & thankful in experiencing how wonderful God‚Äôs life changing grace truly is. How He first loved me, & sought me out first.bTakes away the mental gymnastics away, in letting Him be no King but Christ Alone. O‚Äô how His marvelous His grace is, as it rightly so humbles, ones & teaches one. Who the Creator is & who is the creature is! O‚Äô how gracious & loving He is, that He would save many & n‚Äôt any at all. Hallelujah what a Savior He is amen.
Mat 11:27 ‚ÄúAll things are delivered unto Me by My Father, & no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, & he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him. Goes right back to what fallen mankind will‚Äônt & can‚Äôt do, apart from sovereignty God, being bestowed upon one. Through His amazing life changing grace amen!; Jhn 6:37, 6:44
If it weren‚Äôt for election, ones fallen will would take one to hell; Eph 2:1:3, Rom 3:10-12, Ecc 7:20, etc. You can only get rid of election by getting rid of the Bible. As the atonement isn‚Äôt designed to render men inexcusable, but rather it‚Äôs designed to save some of those who stand before God with any excuses.
A good read here; http://www.reformedreader.org/suforall.htm
This is yet another problem with women being in the mainstream work force (excluding women's health fields, and the very-rare-occasion-people-love-making-the-standard). God has given the provision part life to the men. Therefore he designed his creatures as such. Men are better equipped to do physical things like this. It just simply the truth...
Many times, part of providing for a family includes things that need a strong body. Construction, manufacturing, and apparently being a pilot also. Women are given a different, but equal role of child rearing, and birthing, and educating...
Both are absolutely vital to have a family, and society that is healthy and strong. If you don't have those concepts acted out, you get...well... the US. Our country is falling very quickly because we are trying to destroy the ideas behind our God given design. Let's keep trying to make men, and women do the same stuff, all we will do is fail. We will make a country that is loosing money because of the lack of maximum proficiency due in women in the work force. And we will have generations of uneducated, untrained children who don't know who they are, or what their place is in society because their mothers are gone, working to pay the schools, the job they should be doing...
We must really pray that the many faithful Christian churches and assemblies, in California, (there is a whole list of those who broadcast their sermons on SA), as well as some who do not, but are making a stand, will indeed come forth en masse and oppose this bill.
They must immediately withdraw all their children out of the state (public) schools, either for genuinely independent and solidly Christian schools, or for home schooling.
They should stop registering for 501(c)3 tax exemptions, should stop all compromise with evolution, and because their tax dollars still have to pay for the public education system, they should also protest very clearly outside both state and local education boards.
They should also use their vote very clearly to vote out these anarchistic pornographers from their school boards, the State congress and Senate, the local councils, and of course the national Representatives and Senators they send to the US Congress.
They must be as radical as the Muslims, but without the violence, as the latter will be pretty well exempt from these LGBT / Transgender rules anyway, though subject to them on paper.
ladybug wrote: Scold your friends as you did DD, or apologize to DD.
My comment was not one made in outrage. If there was a problem with previous comments, and I agree that BMac, John UK should not have made them, there is an option to report them to the moderator.
I have no control over what comments people make and as I stated before, I do not read every comment made in the threads in which I post, so yes I miss stuff and yes there will be "crickets". Both Darren and John UK have been gracious to me in their comments, thus I didn't take notice of how they addressed others, also did not read what BMac had posted.
I have a suspicion that this was in Scotland, as both teacher and student (the latter sounded, 16 - 18 yrs old, like a sixth form or fifth form student, the old style British set up, Year 11 to 12 in the newer British set up, or 10th to 12th grade in the US set up), had Scottish accents.
Scotland has its own devolved government, under the leftist and pro-EU Scottish Nationalists, backed up by the leftist but Unionist Corbyn‚Äôs Labour Party, and to a much lesser extent by the Liberal Democrats, and a tiny ‚Äúliberal‚ÄĚ Conservative minority led by the openly lesbian activist, Ruth Davidson, and maybe a Green Party member or two, and straight away we can see there is a problem.
Scotland has always had its own education system, separate from the rest of Britain.
My old teacher training years ago was not valid in Scotland. The present regime in Scotland is more radically pro-LGBT / Transgender than the rest of Britain, with a radical syllabus not too dissimilar, though probably slightly more moderate than the one in California, and until stopped by the British Supreme Court, were going to have a state appointed ‚ÄúGuardian‚ÄĚ for every single child in Scotland, who could overrule parents!!
They are still trying to go through with a national smacking ban!!
Lisa Desjardins & William Brangham wrote: .... Through two years of this investigation, through the indictment of 34 individuals, and then spelled out clearly in his final report, Robert Mueller made one thing crystal clear ‚ÄĒ Russia attempted to interfere with our 2016 election.
Here's the last thing Mueller said.
"And I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments, that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election. And that allegation deserves the attention of every American. Thank you"....
excerpt from, "All of the Mueller report‚Äôs major findings in less than 30 minutes."
Besides the video it does have the transcript with it also.
ladybug wrote: Tell us US, where was your outrage when 'BmC' said this in response to me, "Some things never change in this forum, in fact they come in predictable cycles of practice and behaviour. Such are, the entrenching into groups of shut-minded buddy condescension, the mushroom-like turned up of new monikers under cover, the mantra of pride, the dismantling of texts to accommodate a fixed position, and the adhominem propaganda when arguments cannot be refuted. There is a hint of "Leave them alone" in Scripture"...where was your scolding to her US? It's okay to be rude if you are BmC? Where was your outrage when John UK deemed Darren 'unsaved'? It was crickets from you US. It seems the double standard continues here doesn't it? I read DD's response, you deem it a 'needless attack', warning DD not to question her character, intelligence or state of redemption. Yet, you allow others to do that VERY THING. Before you point your finger at DD, check out the 'patterns' of your 'friends' US. Hypocrisy continues as well. Good comment DD
I confess I do not read every comment but noticed this one simply because it was the last one at the time I look. I also confess I am not perfect and entreat your forgiveness for my lack of consistency
I have challenged over 500 people to listen to Justin Johnson for three hour and ask yourself if the Bible is clearer and you have learned more in three hours than you have learned in the last 10 years. Like John I was wrong and had to admit it. But it has bean so much joy to learn how to rightly divide.
Tell us US, where was your outrage when 'BmC' said this in response to me, "Some things never change in this forum, in fact they come in predictable cycles of practice and behaviour. Such are, the entrenching into groups of shut-minded buddy condescension, the mushroom-like turned up of new monikers under cover, the mantra of pride, the dismantling of texts to accommodate a fixed position, and the adhominem propaganda when arguments cannot be refuted. There is a hint of "Leave them alone" in Scripture"...where was your scolding to her US? It's okay to be rude if you are BmC?
Where was your outrage when John UK deemed Darren 'unsaved'? It was crickets from you US. It seems the double standard continues here doesn't it?
I read DD's response, you deem it a 'needless attack', warning DD not to question her character, intelligence or state of redemption. Yet, you allow others to do that VERY THING. Before you point your finger at DD, check out the 'patterns' of your 'friends' US. Hypocrisy continues as well.
Good comment DD
Still waiting for the universalist crowd to respond to why 'all' aren't saved. What prevents the salvation of the whole world IF Christ made it 'possible' for them to be saved?
What is without a doubt is that you have launched a needless attack on B McCausland not fitting in anyway of James 3:17 or Ephesians 4:1&2.
Your disagreement should not question her character, intelligence or state of redemption. You do have a pattern of doing this. May God grant you grace to be gracious and kind in expressing your thoughts.
B McCausland, It is without doubt that your reasoning ability is severely challenged by thoughts of spreading the "intent" of the sacrifice of Christ to all mankind. Although is a claim so easily refuted by the plain text of hundreds of scriptures, you are still unable to see the Truth of election, predestination, and the efficacy of Christ's oblation for ONLY those whom He has chosen. It escapes you to understand that by spreading the notion that His sacrifice was sufficient for every human of all time, you do by your own words declare that sacrifice to ineffectual because billions reside in hell with more on the way (those APPOINTED to destruction). If that's not bad enough your notion further indicates the He is a failure in every respect because He is unable to persuade men to submit to Him. It is not expected for you to see any of this as you have been blinded by the Lord (Isa. 6:9 & 10). Perhaps there are some who have succumbed to your deceptions who really know better, but have been temporarily fooled by your words---may they turn from your folly back to the Lord.
‚ÄúThe distinction (between the intrinsic and extrinsic value of the atonement) we ....hold to be human, needless, unscriptural, and misleading. It does not simplify the presentation of the gospel to sinners. It affords no comfort to anxious inquirers sighing under the burden of deplored sin, to whom infinite generalities bring no relief. Their question invariably is, no ‚Äúhas an atonement of unlimited value been provided?‚ÄĚ but ‚ÄúDid Christ die for ME?‚ÄĚ It magnifies neither the justice, nor the wisdom, nor the love of God, and introduces confusion into the beautifully harmonious and coherent scheme of Divine salvation. On the other hand the doctrine of a just and sufficient atonement is, in all ways, adapted to the wants of sinners, while it reflects transcendent glory upon the God of all grace.... On examination it will be seen that the root of all objections to an atonement, limited both in design and efficacy, lies in dislike to the Sovereignty of God. In determining the extent of His salvation He pleased Himself alone. The right to do this, proud reason invariably denies Him. Hence the many attacks upon the revelation of plans and proceedings, in all of which He claims and exercises His royal prerogative.‚ÄĚ W Styles
My goodness. I just can't believe all I just read. These bureaucrats, politicians gone mad, and pedophiles, are way out of control, but the problem is that they're getting the support to do it all, and not nearly enough pushback. Liberals gone mad, and woe to them all for causing such great harm to the little ones they're confusing and defiling.
If and when Texas slides blue, this can happen here. Billionaire homosexuals , a political party that carries their water and you have the underworld view of the evangelical vote and the RNC. LBGTQ lobbyists are entrenched, enthusiastic and winning everywhere. With Trump in office, the only hope the RNC , nationally is the evangelical vote. As for California, God still judges and he‚Äôs not worried.
The authority of the national school policy say so. I paraphrased, but, chilling words, which is where we are trundling down . If the NEA and the department of education has the moxie of the epa, in the wrong hands.. , were he alive and not condemned, Lenin would be doing cartwheels.
Halo, lad, Just a short comment, All the verses people use to defend limited or particular atonement deal with the *application* of the atonement, but they do not necessarily deal with its value per se, or extend, which is what needs to be proved from Scripture. Deductive reasoning is the gadget used to make such verses conclude what it is set to prove, which verses do not prove by primary content.
On the other hand, universal atonement is confused as meaning salvation for all, which is not what is meant by it. Rather we defend the value and extend of the atonment as one of the *infinite* traits of God in all he does.
"I know that, whatsoever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him."
"Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it."
Ecc.3:14 & 8:17
"O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out"
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